[General] OSAF redirect

[Mikeal Rogers]

Why is the assumption that all of these people are looking for  
chandlerproject? If they are, why aren't they clicking on one of the  
three links? If they can't obviously see how to get to Chandler then  
we can fix that without forwarding.

Do we have some data showing that these people aren't going to  
osafoundation.org to check out OSAF?

Are we certain that this number won't decrease significantly once we  
lose the current osafoundation.org page rank? Maybe the reason we  
have so many more osafoundation.org hits is because the page rank is  
high, forwarding it won't help us if that is the case.

It's much riskier in my opinion to do the forward. We can redesign  
the page to make it more obvious how to get to Chandler and cut down  
the risk significantly.

Also, do we have any idea why these bloggers are linking to  
osafoundation.org instead of chandlerproject.org? Are we not pushing  
this link in the product and in the marketing enough?

-Mikeal

On Oct 19, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Ted Leung wrote:

> Google Analytics shows a significant number of people going to  
> osafoundation.org but not going on to chandlerproject.org.   Are  
> you happy to just have all those people drop on the floor?
>
> On Oct 19, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Mikeal Rogers wrote:
>
>> It's already pretty easy and obvious how to get from  
>> osafoundation.org to chandlerproject.org, so it's not the biggest  
>> problem in the world that people are linking to it. We're already  
>> on top of posting comments on these blogs anyway so we can link to  
>> chandlerproject.org in the comments directly.
>>
>> I think if we think we could make it easier to navigate from  
>> osafoundation.org to chandlerproject.org we should, but we  
>> shouldn't just forward osafoundation.org to chandlerproject.org --  
>> I can see value in keeping them separate.
>>
>> I think the mozilla.org site is a good one to go off of;
>>
>> http://www.mozilla.org/
>>
>> -Mikeal
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Jared Rhine wrote:
>>
>>> We've had about two blog post point to www.osafoundation.org  
>>> instead of our desired chandlerproject.org.
>>>
>>> It was suggested we look at ways to minimize this.
>>>
>>> The most straightforward solution proposed was to have  
>>> www.osafoundation.org redirect to chandlerproject.org.  I said I  
>>> wanted to think about how that affected our Google Page Rank first.
>>>
>>> If you google for "Chandler", you get www.osafoundation.org at  
>>> the top.  You used to get chandler arizona, so we've gone up in  
>>> the last year. This is due to the network of links built up over  
>>> time which give www.osafoundation.org a high ranking.
>>>
>>> chandlerproject.org is sixth on the list currently since  
>>> effectively, it only has gotten linked at all in the last five  
>>> weeks.
>>>
>>> So what will redirecting www.osafoundation.org do to page rank?   
>>> As I understand it, you will take on the page ranking of the site  
>>> you redirect to.  That is, www.osafoundation.org would get the  
>>> lower ranking of chandlerproject.org's current page rank, *not*  
>>> the other way around where www.osafoundation.org would raise the  
>>> rank of the currently sixth chandlerproject.org.
>>>
>>> www.osafoundation.org has a page rank of 7, chandlerproject.org  
>>> has a page rank of 0.  ( http://www.pagerankr.com/ )
>>>
>>> I'm pretty conflicted now over what I think we should do with  
>>> this information.  Outright redirection of www.osafoundation.org  
>>> is still on the table.  But I don't really want to lose our first- 
>>> place ranking now.  We might say that if chandlerproject.org is  
>>> ever going to be first place for "chandler" over chandler, az,  
>>> it's going to have to build the link structure itself over time  
>>> and we'll get back to number 1 eventually, so let's start now.
>>>
>>> I can't find matching chandlerproject.org stats, but for some non- 
>>> Google link tracking on www.osafoundation.org, see:
>>>
>>> http://www.urltrends.com/viewtrend.php?url=http%3A%2F% 
>>> 2Fwww.osafoundation.org%2F
>>>
>>> Ted has said he doesn't think we should sit on this issue and  
>>> should do something to avoid bloggers pointing to  
>>> www.osafoundation.org.
>>>
>>> I throw the conversation open to the floor, in the context of the  
>>> alleged pagerank behavior I describe above.  What should we do  
>>> about blogs linking to www.osafoundation.org directly?
>>>
>>> -- Jared
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