[General] Release number and date on chandlerproject.org

Mimi Yin mimi at osafoundation.org
Mon Oct 15 11:47:58 PDT 2007 

Removing [Chandler-dev] from subject line in case this thread is  
getting filtered out for people.

I think it might be important to display the version number for Hub,  
just to make the point that we're making progress on both projects.  
Ted, do you have any thoughts on this?

I'm concerned that it's misleading to display the Desktop version  
number at the top of the page. The project as a whole isn't at  
0.7.1...only the Desktop is.

Mimi

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Philippe Bossut <pbossut at osafoundation.org>
> Date: October 11, 2007 10:55:06 PM PDT
> To: OSAF Discussions <general at osafoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [General] Fwd: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date	 
> on	chandlerproject.org
> Reply-To: pbossut at osafoundation.org, OSAF Discussions  
> <general at osafoundation.org>
>
> I agree with Heikki. Let's keep this page clear and simple. The  
> green/blue correspondence between arrows and dates will be lost on  
> most people.
>
> Cheers,
> - Philippe
>
> Heikki Toivonen wrote:
>> Mimi Yin wrote:
>>
>>> 1. The top bar (where currently there is only: Open Source  
>>> Applications
>>> Foundation) was intended to display 'news items' like new  
>>> releases. (See
>>> mock-up.)
>>>
>>
>> I've actually come to the opinion that what is on chandlerproject.org
>> now is fine. Alternatively I could see:
>>
>> ... .6 *.7* .8 ...
>>     0.7.1 - Oct 10, 2007
>>
>> The reason is that I believe most people who come to  
>> chandlerproject.org
>> will do so to download the desktop. The second most numerous group  
>> will
>> be people logging in to Hub, but IMO Hub does not need version  
>> number on
>>  chandlerproject.org. And since we want to keep the server a bit less
>> visible, just adding the server version number next to the server
>> download link like in your mockup would be fine.
>>
>>
>>> 2. We should probably have release numbers for both Desktop, Hub and
>>> Server, which should take care of Heikki's layout concerns.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think we need to specify Hub's version anywhere on
>> chandlerproject.org. Users of Hub will see the version from Hub  
>> itself.
>>
>>
>>> 3. The lack of a green download arrow for 'Download Server' is
>>> deliberate just as Jeffrey said. (Our problem doesn't seem to be  
>>> that
>>> people can't find it, but that it's still too prominent for many  
>>> end-users!)
>>>
>>
>> OK by me.
>>
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Heikki Toivonen <heikki at osafoundation.org>
> Date: October 11, 2007 7:07:56 PM PDT
> To: OSAF Discussions <general at osafoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [General] Fwd: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date  
> on	chandlerproject.org
> Reply-To: OSAF Discussions <general at osafoundation.org>
>
> Mimi Yin wrote:
>> 1. The top bar (where currently there is only: Open Source  
>> Applications
>> Foundation) was intended to display 'news items' like new  
>> releases. (See
>> mock-up.)
>
> I've actually come to the opinion that what is on chandlerproject.org
> now is fine. Alternatively I could see:
>
> ... .6 *.7* .8 ...
>     0.7.1 - Oct 10, 2007
>
> The reason is that I believe most people who come to  
> chandlerproject.org
> will do so to download the desktop. The second most numerous group  
> will
> be people logging in to Hub, but IMO Hub does not need version  
> number on
>  chandlerproject.org. And since we want to keep the server a bit less
> visible, just adding the server version number next to the server
> download link like in your mockup would be fine.
>
>> 2. We should probably have release numbers for both Desktop, Hub and
>> Server, which should take care of Heikki's layout concerns.
>
> I don't think we need to specify Hub's version anywhere on
> chandlerproject.org. Users of Hub will see the version from Hub  
> itself.
>
>> 3. The lack of a green download arrow for 'Download Server' is
>> deliberate just as Jeffrey said. (Our problem doesn't seem to be that
>> people can't find it, but that it's still too prominent for many  
>> end-users!)
>
> OK by me.
>
> -- 
>   Heikki Toivonen
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Reid Ellis <rae at osafoundation.org>
> Date: October 11, 2007 2:22:38 PM PDT
> To: OSAF Discussions <general at osafoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [General] Fwd: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date  
> on chandlerproject.org
> Reply-To: OSAF Discussions <general at osafoundation.org>
>
> I would avoid nn/nn/nn for dates, and stick with "Oct 10, 2007"- 
> style dates.
>
> I don't think a version number is useful, and may even be confusing  
> for Chandler Hub -- "Uh-oh, I only have Chandler 0.7.x and the Hub  
> is at 0.8.x -- will they work together ok??"
>
> Was the reversing of "version product date" between server and  
> desktop around the countdown deliberate?
>
> Reid
>
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 14:34, Mimi Yin wrote:
>> Moving this discussion over to the General List.
>>
>> 1. The top bar (where currently there is only: Open Source  
>> Applications Foundation) was intended to display 'news items' like  
>> new releases. (See mock-up.)
>>
>> 2. We should probably have release numbers for both Desktop, Hub  
>> and Server, which should take care of Heikki's layout concerns.
>>
>> 3. The lack of a green download arrow for 'Download Server' is  
>> deliberate just as Jeffrey said. (Our problem doesn't seem to be  
>> that people can't find it, but that it's still too prominent for  
>> many end-users!)
>>
>> We have a longer-term problem however. Since Server/Desktop  
>> releases are no longer in lock-step, what happens when the Server  
>> is at 0.8.1? and the Desktop is at 0.7.8 or vice versa? What do we  
>> display in the top area? I have a proposed solution in the mockup  
>> below. The layout of the release timeline is rather complex, so it  
>> might need to be a graphic.
>>
>> Mimi
>>
>> <DoReleases.png>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Davor Cubranic <cubranic at cs.ubc.ca>
>>> Date: October 11, 2007 11:01:57 AM PDT
>>> To: Developer Discussions <chandler-dev at lists.osafoundation.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date on  
>>> chandlerproject.org
>>> Reply-To: Developer Discussions <chandler- 
>>> dev at lists.osafoundation.org>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Reid Ellis wrote:
>>>
>>>> We could keep the top text/graphic at "0.7" and mention the version
>>>> number next to the product download areas. See mock-up: http://
>>>> clith.com/chandler.html
>>>
>>> This is much better. Would the date under the timeline be for the  
>>> latest
>>> release (0.7.1, in this case)?
>>>
>>> Davor
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