[General] Wiki Homepage != Landing Page

Jared Rhine jared at wordzoo.com
Wed Jul 11 14:13:03 PDT 2007


Big idea of this email: Our wiki pages do have to live at a second 
level.  I have a hack in place now that may work out to provide the 
nice-and-tidy chandlerproject.org/WikiHome (works now).

Mimi Yin wrote:
> I'm not sure how important it is to have identical sidebars at this point.

I can live without them.

> Do you think you'll always start at the landing page?

If it's useful, yes, because it's shortest.

> A one-off billboard for end-users with links to content on the wiki.

A landing page could be that.  But as described, I do think the root 
page of our domain, chandlerproject.org, holds a special place in the 
community flow and grows in importance over time.

Assuming you lose 70% of people after they follow that one URL pointer 
they have to you (the one link in a slashdot article), it's an error to 
push off too much content and audience interest until "page 2".

I think our current landing page design does a good job of putting all 
the major "2nd steps" (features, screenshots, download, news) in 
easy-to-access location, so I don't think it needs much more now.  But 
it does seem more like we've scaled back the level of coolness we might 
be able to implement on the homepage for Preview, rather than the 
current implementation does everything I'd want a root-level homepage to 
do for us and the community.

All that said, though, it seems that we're not in disagreement for the 
Preview scope for both of these things.  We're just trying to pick a 
page and get the current scope implemented.

> I don't think it should remain in the Product Wiki as it is meant to be 
> a portal page for the entire wiki. Can it be chandlerproject.org/WikiHome?

Ah, that's probably part of the issue.  Because, actually, that would be 
great, but it's kind of a hassle to implement.  Wiki pages need to live 
inside a Wiki, so the page can't be /WikiHome, it needs to be 
/SomeThing/WikiHome.

[Hmmm]

Well, I wrote a paragraph here about how this issue is hard and I'm 
afraid we'll have to pick a area for now.  Then I tried something out 
and although it's a hack, it might be ok.

You can go to http://chandlerproject.org/WikiHome now and it shows you 
the wiki home page.  The page is still *actually* at 
Product/ChandlerProjectHome, it's just you can view it at this other URL 
/WikiHome.  Edit links still go to the original, for instance.

That's probably the best I can do for now.  The page itself does need to 
be in a particular wiki, and I urge us to pick one of Product, Teams, 
Notes, Developers wiki instead of creating a new top-level one.  (Main 
also exists in theory).

We have other pages in this same category; meta-pages without a home. 
Knowing that even if we hide it with URL trickery it still has to be 
*somewhere* (according to TWiki, sorry), which wiki area will be most 
suitable?  Product or Notes probably.  (Where's the license go, btw?)

It seems odd that there's no appropriate place in our wiki taxonomy for 
"meta" stuff or project stuff.  Is that something we can correct? 
Pushing them "up one level" is causing problems for me.

-- Jared



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