[Dev] automated tests != unit tests (was Re: Mock Reactor for tests?)

[Mike Taylor]

I'm aware of what the term unit test is and how to use it - I was just 
informing you that currently there are some unit tests of the cpia 
framework that *may* require a GUI because of how wx works.

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On Jun 7, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Phillip J. Eby wrote:

> At 03:21 PM 6/7/2005 -0400, Mike Taylor wrote:
>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
>>> I've also investigated the run()/stop() issue, and as far as I can 
>>> tell this should be a non-issue for tests that run using the Twisted 
>>> default reactor (which is what Chandler uses).  The reason that you 
>>> aren't supposed to use run()/stop() or certain other functions 
>>> multiple times (AFAICT), is because certain GUI-platform-specific 
>>> reactor implementations won't tolerate it.  However, tests that 
>>> don't run with a GUI don't need to use a GUI-specific reactor, and 
>>> we're not using one in Chandler currently anyway.
>>
>> Current unit tests do not use a GUI but real-soon-now we will have 
>> startup unit tests and also unit tests that require the GUI.
>
> A startup test isn't a unit test, and a test that requires a GUI is at 
> least close to the line, if not over it.
>
> Okay, I totally give up.  I can see that there is no way I'm going to 
> convince everybody to stop calling all developer-written automated 
> tests "unit" tests.  (All unit tests are developer-written automated 
> tests, but not all developer-written automated tests are unit tests.)
>
> I will try and make up a new, non-industry-standard term that *really* 
> means unit test, which we can then foist upon the rest of the world.  
> And, since it will be a new term that nobody has ever heard before, 
> everyone will believe me when I say that Chandler doesn't really have 
> any.  :)
>
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