[Dev] Rotating build sheriff duties?
John Anderson
john at osafoundation.org
Wed Dec 7 19:40:20 PST 2005
+1
Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> At 06:29 PM 12/7/2005 -0800, Heikki Toivonen wrote:
>
>> pje said that if we had better tools and possibly
>> organizational changes, sheriff wouldn't be needed, but he did not seem
>> to deny the need currently.
>
>
> That's because I'm not in a position to reasonably argue that you and
> Bear don't need or want something you've said you need or want. :)
> I'm more than willing to do my time as sheriff, but that's not quite
> the same thing as saying we *need* one.
>
> To be honest, I think we'd achieve more progress if, when somebody
> complains about the build being broken, you or Bear simply pointed
> them to whoever caused the problem. From there, we could simply let
> the forces of natural selection and social pressure take over. :)
>
> Putting a sheriff between the offenders and the offendees just enables
> the offenders' dysfunctional behavior - it allows people in the
> current case to blame the sheriff instead of themselves, and to
> perhaps ignore the impact on other people. If they are directly
> subjected to the complaints, however, then they can't hide behind the
> idea that it's just you and Bear being picky or something.
>
> The rotation seems like a nice theory to solve the same issue, but in
> practice it seems unlikely that any given sheriff-of-the-day is going
> to be particularly enthusiastic about confronting such issues. After
> all, why argue today when you can let it slide till tomorrow? This
> will just further exacerbate the problem of a lack of social pressure
> and continue to enable the idea that this is just bureaucracy or
> whatever excuses are being used.
>
> My take, then, is that we need not a rotating "build sheriff" but a
> rotating "tinderbox wrangler". The difference being that the former
> is expected to enforce rules, and the latter is a co-ordinator for
> various technical issues and a temporary replacement for better
> monitoring tools in certain areas. I don't mind being a tinderbox
> wrangler, but I really don't want to be a sheriff.
>
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