[Design] Some feedback from a new user
rcottiss at cottiss.com
Tue Sep 4 17:48:19 PDT 2007
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>Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:39 AM
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>Subject: Re: [Design] Some feedback from a new user
>On Aug 27, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Robin Cottiss wrote:
>> 1. The dashboard view seems to use the reminder date/time for an
>> event. I
>> was confused by this as I am expecting to see the actual date/time
>> of the
>> event. I am not really interested in when I am going to be reminded
>> about an
>The dashboard only displays the reminder date/time *IF* it's a custom
>date, not on regular *15 minutes before the meeting* alarms. Can you
>tell me a little more about the kinds events you might add custom
The dashboard or All view shows the alarm time for any alarm. I often set up alarms for meetings to
remind me that there is a meeting coming up. There is no particular action involved except perhaps
to start finishing up the previous task
>Our best guess was that if you add a custom alarm date, that date is
>the *next important date* associated with that event. For example,
>I'm invited to a wedding on Sept 16th, but I need to RSVP by Aug 3rd.
>Aug 3rd is the next important date associated with this event. So as
>I'm reviewing my Dashboard to get a sense of all the things I need to
>take care of and when I need to take care of them, it's important to
>call out the Aug 3rd date.
I think there are two types of alarms. Those that have a particular action involved and those that
are reminding you about the impending event. The first type are perhaps next action tasks and should
perhaps be tasks in their own right.
>However, I still agree with you that it's also important to be able
>to view events by event date and we've discussed various ways to
>manipulate / customize the columns in the table to show just event
>> 3. I finally figured out what the little tick marks are on the monthly
>> calendars. I see that they tell you how much of your day is filled
>> appointments/events. Using just the lines next to the dates makes the
>> calendar look a little messy. I also thought the ticks might
>> reflect the
>> collections but it looks like they aggregate all collections. This
>> reduce the value of the ticks. I created a collection of web
>> conferences. I
>> have no intention of going to all these events but they show up as
>> full bars
>> on the dates of the conference. It would be nice if the bars
>> reflected the
>> collections were currently viewing. Also, because the bars are to
>> the side
>> it is not obvious which day they are attached to.
>There's actually a way to make the tick-marks only reflect the events
>you want to go to. But the feature is not very discoverable today.
>(We're still trying to work through how best to present this idea to
>users since it overlaps heavily with Event Status and Free/Busy.)
>Turn on the Collection>>Keep out of Dashboard menu item and all the
>events in that collection will be excluded from the mini-calendar.
Yes I found that and later commented that I would like finer control on excluding from the
dashboard. Because you can only include or exclude collections from the dashboard there might be a
tendency to create collections for the wrong reasons.
>> 5. The ed and cr annotations kept distracting me. Unfortunately my
>> name is Ed and I create entries that refer to Edward but I kept
>> seeing ed
>> and thinking about Edward! Is this meant to be an icon?
>Are you sharing your collections with anybody else or sent/received
>email? The cr/ed notation should only appear when the user is trying
>to collaborate. They denote: Created by and Edited by. If you are not
>sharing any collections, then you may have found a bug!
Well some of the collections are shared with my Chandler server account. One is not published but it
still shows the ed created column. My current work around is to make the column width small.
>Thanks again for writing up all this feedback!
>P.S. It is worth noting that it's just as important to call out what
>you *did* like and what you *did* figure out easily. We badly need
>both pluses and minuses in our detective work of figuring out how to
>best present new concepts to users.
I will try. I like the fact that you can show multiple collections together. I like thr drag and
drop of events on the calendar. I like the concept of sharing my desktop chandler with a web
accessible server version that can be updated and synched back to the desktop. I have a new
consulting assignment and I may install the desktop on my 'work' PC. This is where a full blown
email client would be really great. I could be checking personal email at work and still know that I
am capturing all the messages and tasks to my desktop at home.
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