[Design] [Cosmo][Desktop] Making sure the server never ends up with a big pile of untriaged Chandler items

Morgen Sagen morgen at osafoundation.org
Thu May 31 11:54:17 PDT 2007


On May 31, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Mimi Yin wrote:

> Hi Morgen,
>
> I think we need to consider the magnitude and frequency of the  
> inconvenience.
>
> 1. I have 4 shared collections. I'm sharing TS on 3 of them because  
> I work so closely with the other person sharing that collection  
> that we really want to be on the same page wrt what's NOW, what's  
> been DONE and what's deferred to LATER. (That way I can relax and  
> stop nagging them about open tasks ;o) The 1 collection where  
> shared TS doesn't make sense is the Office Calendar.
>
> Certainly if you're sharing with yourself...you want to share TS.  
> Other sharees can always choose to uncheck TS when subscribing to  
> the share. That's the beauty of the new and improved, asymmetrical  
> sharing filters!...But the publisher will want to share TS so that  
> they can pull it down from a different machine.
>
> 2. The inconvenience for the Desktop user consists of going to the  
> Manage share... dialog to uncheck TS after publishing.
>
> 3. The inconvenience for the Hub user consists of waiting a long  
> time for data to load into the web UI. (Morgen had some questions  
> re: How slow will it be? How
>
> 4. OTOH, it may be fairly serious to be really slow for 1st time  
> Hub users. As Casual Collaborators, they're not really dedicated  
> Chandler users. Many CCs may not have even ever heard of OSAF or  
> Chandler. Instead, they're being drafted by Desktop users. If the  
> first time they click on a ticket, the UI is very slow to load  
> data, it may make for a poor first impression that turns people  
> away before they've had a chance to explore the UI.
>
> That being said, once a CC has clicked on a ticket and lived  
> through the pain of waiting for all the data to load into the web  
> UI and get triaged by the web UI, other CCs will inherit the triage  
> status assigned by the first CC's account.
>
> I think all of this depends on just how slow the web UI will be if  
> it has to load all the items, untriaged.
>
> Mimi
>
> On May 31, 2007, at 10:53 AM, Morgen Sagen wrote:
>
>> It's coming down to a decision between inconveniencing the  
>> Chandler user every time they publish, or inconveniencing the  
>> first Web UI user to subscribe to a collection-without-triage.   
>> How do we come to a decision about who loses?

Ok, I'll remove the checkboxes from the publish dialog.  However,  
you're really just sweeping an underlying problem under the carpet.   
If I understand the problem correctly, the first time Sunbird/ 
Lightning/OtherCalDAVClient publishes a calendar to Cosmo, the Web UI  
will be in for a bit of a wait.


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