[Design] [cosmo] [proposal] Detail View

[Bobby Rullo]

I think it looks pretty snazzy.

If Matthew thinks it's not too much  extra work than sure, +1

Bobby

On May 7, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Priscilla Chung wrote:

> This coming week Matthew is going to re-implement  the details view  
> of the web UI in order to support stamping for dashboard. He  
> informed me that he will have to start from clean slate.  From my  
> understanding, the amount of time to implement a layout identical  
> to the desktop and time to implement a proposal are about the same.
>
> So we took this opportunity to look at the event details on the  
> desktop and see if there are ways to address some of the known  
> issues. How to make it behave more like a web application. Come up  
> with more visually acceptable solutions to incorporate all the form  
> elements without losing the 'Save' and 'Remove' button on smaller  
> screen sizes.
>
> ***Note: Please review the questions below before commenting on the  
> design proposal.***
>
> We came up with a proposal which is a slight departure from the  
> current desktop layout of the detail view:
> http://wiki.osafoundation.org/Projects/ 
> CosmoZeroDotSevenSpec#CurrentMockUp
>
> *The reasons for coming up with a new proposal for detail view are  
> the following:*
> + The current layout which is adapted to the desktop app is not  
> well suited to web conventions.
> + This layout better scales to handle small screen sizes and/or  
> additional types of stamps.
> + Right now we have only three stamps, but there is no more space  
> on the horizontal 'mark up bar'. The proposed layout scales for  
> addition stamps, including other ideas such as annotations for read- 
> only collections, per a previous discussion on the design list:  
> http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/ 
> 007059.html ).
> + The visual relationship strengthens the visual grouping and  
> association for the address, task and event stamp and their  
> associated capabilities.
> + The Casual Collaborator target user, is someone who does not use  
> the desktop every day and may need more guidance in understanding  
> the concept of the the address, task and event stamp.
> + It's not going to take more time to build than implementing the  
> layout similar to the desktop.
> + The current layout which is adapted to the desktop is very tight— 
> the web app may have problems with different fonts and font size.
>
> From the very beginning Mimi and I agreed to keep the two  
> applications consistent, but only *where it makes sense*. This  
> proposal is not intending to create a unique web UI for the sake of  
> it. We felt the web app is a good way to try ideas out, where the  
> desktop app lacked in experimentation because it would longer and  
> be prone to more bugs.
>
> *The reason not to move forward with a new proposal for the detail  
> view:*
> + Discussion on the design list may impact schedule.
> + If this proposal distracts from 'the purpose of preview',  it  
> makes sense to postpone this discussion till post preview.
> + It's not identical to the desktop app and might cause problems  
> with some users, primarily desktop users who are used to using the  
> desktop. For preview, the target user for the web UI are Casual  
> Collaborator and not the 'Consultative desktop users'.
>
> It's fine if we decide to move forward and mimic the layout on the  
> desktop, as long we're aware of the known issues. Trying something  
> new may fix some issues however it will also create other issues.  
> If our concern is schedule, doing something new may not necessarily  
> cause risk—though I lean on Ted/Matthew to confirm this.
>
> Usability risk is unknown at this point because we don't have users  
> testing the proposed layout vs. the desktop layout, but  
> implementing two different layouts offers us the opportunity to  
> test and learn from our users. I understand completely if the team  
> as a whole does not want to take a chance on this because there are  
> a lot of risk factors already.
>
> *Questions:*
> Forgive my bluntness, but it seems like time is against our side,  
> so before commenting on the proposal, I'd first like to ask:
> + Is this proposal distracting everyone from 'purpose of preview'?
> + If so, then we should consider tabling this discussion till post  
> preview—where it belongs?
>
> -Priscilla
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