[Design] Search
D John Anderson
john at osafoundation.org
Wed Jan 31 15:06:28 PST 2007
On Jan 31, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Dan Steinicke wrote:
> I've tried the new search (and filed a few bugs).
Thanks for the bug reports
> I agree that there is a lot of room for improvement on how to make
> the search and quick entry intuitive and easily discoverable by the
> casual user, but I think I can live with something close to the
> current implementation for preview.
>
> My other comment is that I didn't immediately clue into the
> necessity of clicking the [X] in the search field to switch back to
> a normal view. I first tried clicking on other collections and
> appbar view buttons and was a little surprised and distressed when
> nothing seemed to happen. Maybe we should make the search results
> go away when these types to things are clicked on?
Maybe if we changed the [X] icon to be a search icon when clicking it
goes back to the search results it might help.
I agree that it feels weird that when search results are displayed,
clicking on the collections in the sidebar doesn't do anything. I
think switching out of search mode in this case is worth trying to
see how it feels.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> D John Anderson wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> I just checked in a first draft of search for Preview.
>>
>> Unfortunately, given the schedule for Preview we don't have enough
>> time to completely implement the spec, nor do we have our usual
>> amount of time to iterate between design and implementation. So,
>> we're going to have to make some difficult choices for Preview.
>>
>> I encourage everyone to try out search and share your feedback.
>> Even if we can't incorporate all the feedback for Preview, we can
>> improve search after Preview.
>>
>> I'll start by giving you my first impression of search as a user
>> of Chandler.
>>
>> The first time I typed something into the search field and pressed
>> enter, it seemed completely broken. Instead of returning my search
>> results it created a new item. I thought this was a bug, but later
>> I discovered that it was a feature. You have to type "/search" in
>> front of your search string. This seems to violate one of the most
>> basic rules of UI design: Never take a familiar widget and make it
>> do something unfamiliar.
>>
>> By putting the quick entry functionality into the search box I
>> think we're making the same mistake we made with the sidebar
>> icons: trying to put too much UI into too few widgets. As a user,
>> I'd prefer having search work like search does in other
>> applications and put the quick entry functionality in a new
>> widget, e.g. a floating palette that comes up when you type
>> somewhere besides a text box (or choose a menu to bring it up). A
>> palette could use the extra space to make it clear that you type
>> commands in the quick entry widget, it could show command history,
>> be resizable and not clutter the existing window,. Other options
>> include: putting quick entry in the status bar at the bottom of
>> the window, putting it where search is but making it not look like
>> search and putting find in a find panel.
>>
>> I also think putting find functionality in a quick entry command
>> seems to violate another basic rule of UI design: Don't hide
>> important commands from your user. Nobody's going to figure out
>> that you need to type "/search" to do a search. Even with command
>> type ahead, nobody is going to discover it. As an aside, I spent
>> over a week trying to implement Darshana's command type ahead in
>> the toolbar, and got really close, but still have a difficult bug
>> holding it up on Mac. I'm not sure I'll succeed in finishing it
>> for Preview.
>>
>> At the very least I think we should make the Quick Entry box not
>> look like a search box, but I still don't know how hard that will
>> be to do.
>>
>> Other nice to have, but not currently implemented features include:
>>
>> - Search results don't update as you type each character in the
>> QuickEntry field. You must type return to start the search
>> - Performance is too slow. It has a jerky feel and occasionally
>> spins the watch on a list of 3000 items.
>> - I'm using Darshana's Quick Entry code. It displays errors by
>> adding a ? to the text instead of displaying the error underneath
>> the search field. Also, when you type a search string that
>> PyLucene interprets as containing a syntax error you get an error
>> dialog written for a programmer not an end user.
>>
>> Here's the main features in the spec which are still not implemented:
>>
>> - I have not yet implemented the "as you start typing anywhere
>> your focus switches to the QuickEntry field"
>> - When no items are found we don't display text on the summary
>> view explaining that there were no items found.
>> - The Quick Entry field doesn't display command alternatives as
>> you type.
>>
>> Finally I'll summarize with some more minor things I noticed after
>> using search for a longer time:
>>
>> The spec didn't address how to sort the results. Since PyLucene
>> returns the results in relevance order, I tried adding a new rank
>> column in the search results like Apple Mail.
>>
>> I kept wishing I could search for something then change the view
>> to see the results in Calendar view. To get an idea for how this
>> might work I checked in a simple proposal: replace the first 4
>> menu items in the view menu (which currently do the same thing as
>> the first 4 toolbar buttons), with 3 new commands that change the
>> view to Calendar, Dashboard and Table. It's also easy to add more
>> view types with new parcels.
>>
>> After I cleared the search results I occasionally wished I could
>> go back to my search results. I played a few simple idea which you
>> can try out: when you click the delete box in the search field and
>> there is no search string it goes back to the search results.
>> Another idea I tried was allowing the results to be saved in a
>> collection. To get a feel for how this might work I added a save
>> button (currently with a place holder icon) next to the quick
>> entry box that's only shown when search results are displayed.
>> Choosing it copies the search results to a new collection in the
>> sidebar. Instead of adding a toolbar button, it's also easy to
>> optionally add a menu item when search results are available to save.
>>
>> It's not unusual for the number of matches displayed in the
>> sidebar to get cut off because the sidebar isn't resizable. I
>> wonder if it might not be worth allowing the sidebar to be
>> resizable and scaling or tiling the mini calendar to fill the space
>>
>> I have a hard to coming up with words to describe how ugly the
>> wxWidget's search widget looks like on windows (and I still
>> haven't seen it on Linux).
>>
>> So give search a try. Let me know if you find any bugs, and we'll
>> work with Design to get the best search we can for Preview and a
>> clear set of tasks for after Preview.
>>
>> John
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