[Design] Remove behavior
Mimi Yin
mimi at osafoundation.org
Thu Jan 4 13:41:26 PST 2007
On Jan 3, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Davor Cubranic wrote:
> Jeffrey Harris wrote:
>> Presumably your FYI's and not-super-urgent tasks aren't done, or
>> you'd
>> mark them as such, right? If you could remove those items from the
>> dashboard, where would you want to see them?
>>
Are these FYI items tasks? events? or notes? Some specific examples
would help :o)
> Their originating collection. To me, collections are organized by
> context (e.g., Home vs. Work), and so contain both important and
> unimportant (e.g., FYI) items. Dashboard to me should be the birds-
> eye view of the important stuff, which is why excluding some items
> from it would be nice. (Even if exclusion is not defined per item,
> but rather is based on some other attribute, like "status".)
>>> On the other hand, defining a tickler for a Chandler task is done by
>>> attaching a custom "alarm" and requires setting up a time (why?).
>>> More importantly, it doesn't let me distinguish between different
>>> types of ticklers.
>>>
>>
>> Can you explain your "(why?)" a bit? Do you mean you just want to be
>> able to set a day for the alarm, but no time?
>>
> Yes, that's what I meant. My tasks in general need to be done by
> some particular day, time doesn't matter. What would be nice is to
> have a "target date" (and optional time) associated with a task,
> which is what would appear in the Date column in the summary view.
> Target date could be turned into an alarm, but wouldn't have to be
> -- I don't need a popup for every deadline I let woosh by. :-)
> Tasks that aren't completed and are due "today" should perhaps
> appear in the minical (or somewhere else in the calendar, I'm just
> not sure where, as the "all-day" section is pretty tight), with
> overdue tasks carrying over until marked done. This is almost
> doable already by using items stamped as both tasks and all-day
> events, except for the part where they are filtered out of the
> calendar once marked "done".
Custom ticklers can be just dates and don't require a time. However,
I agree that the fact that the time is optional is not clear. Could
you log a UI design bug to that effect?
>>> One more thing: the layout of the summary table in the Tasks area
>>> is wasting a lot of space for things that are irrelevant to it,
>>> like the
>>> Who column, while there is hardly any room for the task
>>> description.
>>>
>> The Who column will be used for emailed items, it's true. It'll
>> also be
>> used for keeping track of who last changed a shared task. When
>> that's
>> working I think it should help the who column seem like a good use of
>> screen real estate.
>>
> I can see this being useful once multiple people are working on a
> task. BTW, it might be nice to have columns that can easily be
> collapsed to just a few pixels wide, or whose order in the table
> can be rearranged. A future enhancement, perhaps?
The Who column is useful for our target user the Hub, who is not only
tracking their own tasks, but also tracking other people's tasks.
In the case of email, the Who column is important when tracking email
drafts that you're writing, emails you need to reply to, and emails
from others that are task requests.
However, I agree that user-configurable columns IS an important
feature, it just fell off the list for Preview.
Thx again for your feedback, Davor.
>> Perhaps a useful addition for collections where there's no Who to
>> show
>> except "me" would be to collapse the Who column?
>>
> Sure, that would be perfect.
>
> Davor
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