[Design] Chandler alpha 4 delete behavior

Mimi Yin mimi at osafoundation.org
Wed Feb 7 14:41:27 PST 2007


Hi Travis,

There has been a lot of discussion around this issue. I will quickly  
recap here. Our assumptions are:
+ Deleting collections is rare.
+ Wanting keyboard focus in the sidebar is rather rare.
+ What IS common is switching collections and then scrolling between  
items in the summary pane with the arrow keys. Apps that switch focus  
to the sidebar every time you click in the sidebar to switch  
collections regularly confound users trying to do this last workflow,  
because you end up switching collections with the arrow keys rather  
than scrolling through items in the summary pane.

See list thread from January 2006: http://lists.osafoundation.org/ 
pipermail/design/2006-January/003789.html

However rare, doesn't mean that deleting collections should be  
impossible to discover. You're certainly right that having a context  
menu that includes Delete is necessary to help users figure out how  
do this. All of the context menus haven't been implemented yet. I've  
logged sidebar collection context menus as it's own bug: https:// 
bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8040

What version of Chandler are you using? In Alpha5, there will be a  
menu item under the Collection menu for deleting collections as well.

John, how hard would it be to drag collections to the Trash?

Mimi

On Feb 7, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Travis Vachon wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> I was confused by the Chandler ui during our QA session today, and  
> Sheila and Aparna recommended I post here.
>
> As part of the QA session I rearranged my calendars a little. My  
> last step was to delete an old collection "Personal" that I didn't  
> want any more.
>
> I started out looking at another collection "Work".
>
> The first thing I tried to do was to get a context menu by right  
> clicking, where I expected I would find a delete option.
>
> The next thing I tried to do was drag "Personal" to "Trash".
>
> Next I tried  to select "Personal" in the sidebar and hit my  
> "delete" key. When I selected "Personal", the central pane changed  
> to a list of the events in "Personal", with one of the events  
> selected. When I hit "delete", it deleted one of the events.  
> Similar things happened with cmd-d and the "delete" item in the  
> edit menu.
>
> Finally (after getting on IRC ;-) ), I tried clicking on "Personal"  
> in the sidebar a second time (while I was already looking at  
> "Personal"). This turned the highlight on "Personal" from a light  
> blue to an intense blue, and when I hit "Delete", it prompted me  
> with the collection deletion dialog, from which I could delete my  
> collection.
>
>
> All this may be by design, and it may have changed for preview, but  
> it sounds like it's helpful for you folks to get these kinds of "UI  
> narratives".
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Travis
>
>
>
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