[Design] (no subject)

[Mimi Yin]

Forwarding to Design as per Reid's suggestion.

Andi and I settled this outside and he retracts his 'Yuck, sounds as  
bad as "No items in this silo" statement. There was a misunderstand  
about the subtle, yet significant differences between an application  
area and a silo. (Silos partition / segregate / erect insurmountable  
walls that simultaneously imprison and exclude. Application areas  
filter / narrow focus / form flexible, porous, membranous, conceptual  
boundaries that are easily crossed, stretched and expanded.) Be a  
Uniter, not a Divider!

In any case, here are what I believe are the high-level design  
requirements:

Avoid terminology related to:
+ Views
+ Search and filters (I don't think users necessarily understand  
what's going in the sidebar through the lens of search and queries.)
+ Display issues

I would prefer to stick to concrete ideas that are within the realm  
of end-user vocabulary
+ Items
+ Collections
+ Application areas

(List is not in the end user vocabulary.)

Mimi



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Reid Ellis <rae at osafoundation.org>
> Date: April 2, 2007 11:33:04 AM PDT
> To: chandler-users at osafoundation.org
> Subject: Re: [chandler-users] This collection is empty.
>
> On Apr 2, 2007, at 14:19, Andi Vajda wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Mimi Yin wrote:
>>> Well we now use view to refer to the display widget in the  
>>> Summary pane: Triage Table versus Calendar, so that doesn't feel  
>>> quite right either.
>>>
>>> I mean the literal way to do it would be: "This collection  
>>> contains no items in this application area."
>>>
>>> But for some reason, that sounds to me like someone trying to  
>>> avoid a touchy subject.
>>>
>>> What about: "No items in this application area."
>>
>> Yuck, sounds as bad as "No items in this silo"
>>
>> Andi..
>
> How about:
> 	No applicable items
> 	No items found (implies filtering/search)
> 	Empty filter (-1 on explicit use of word "filter" :-/)
> 	Empty list (more subtle implication of processing/filtering; but  
> introduces term "list"..)
>
> Hm, this is sounding more like a design list issue..
>
> Reid
>
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: D John Anderson <John at osafoundation.org>
> Date: April 2, 2007 11:31:35 AM PDT
> To: Mimi Yin <mimi at osafoundation.org>
> Cc: Andi Vajda <vajda at osafoundation.org>, chandler- 
> users at osafoundation.org
> Subject: Re: [chandler-users] This collection is empty.
>
> How about "No items to view"?
>
> On Apr 2, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Mimi Yin wrote:
>
>> Well we now use view to refer to the display widget in the Summary  
>> pane: Triage Table versus Calendar, so that doesn't feel quite  
>> right either.
>>
>> I mean the literal way to do it would be: "This collection  
>> contains no items in this application area."
>>
>> But for some reason, that sounds to me like someone trying to  
>> avoid a touchy subject.
>>
>> What about: "No items in this application area."
>>
>> This is equally as untrue as This collection is empty, but perhaps  
>> people will be less likely to conclude that they have no Msgs/ 
>> Tasks or Events at all and "This collection'" will be more readily  
>> implied.
>>
>> Mimi
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2007, at 10:44 AM, D John Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> Personally, I think that "0 items" doesn't really address the  
>>> "heart-attack" response of "no items in the collection", and the  
>>> benefit of being shorter doesn't seem very important.
>>>
>>> How about "no items in this view"?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Andi Vajda wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Mimi Yin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have logged a new bug to improve the text, so that it's less  
>>>>> heart-attack inducing :o)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8627
>>>>>
>>>>> New Proposal: 0 items.
>>>>
>>>> How about: "No items displayed" ?
>>>>
>>>> Andi..
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>>>
>>
>
Begin forwarded message:

> From: Andi Vajda <vajda at osafoundation.org>
> Date: April 2, 2007 11:19:49 AM PDT
> To: Mimi Yin <mimi at osafoundation.org>
> Cc: D John Anderson <John at osafoundation.org>, chandler- 
> users at osafoundation.org
> Subject: Re: [chandler-users] This collection is empty.
> Reply-To: Andi Vajda <vajda at osafoundation.org>
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Mimi Yin wrote:
>
>> Well we now use view to refer to the display widget in the Summary  
>> pane: Triage Table versus Calendar, so that doesn't feel quite  
>> right either.
>>
>> I mean the literal way to do it would be: "This collection  
>> contains no items in this application area."
>>
>> But for some reason, that sounds to me like someone trying to  
>> avoid a touchy subject.
>>
>> What about: "No items in this application area."
>
> Yuck, sounds as bad as "No items in this silo"
>
> Andi..

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