[Design][Proposal] Lozenge shape

Mimi Yin mimi at osafoundation.org
Wed May 3 10:28:07 PDT 2006


I think, I actually I'm pretty sure I muddled the conversation by  
using Focus and Selection poorly. The band-aid solution I was  
referring to was that web apps could only mimic Selection with Focus  
+ Enter + Page Refresh. (e.g. Tabs on the Desktop versus Tabs on a  
website). And so if we do away with Focus + Enter for Event Lozenges  
because we are now able to implement Selection, then we will never  
get into the situation I depicted in the mockup: where one Event  
Lozenge has a dotted line around it because it has Focus and a 2nd  
Event Lozenge has a dotted line around it because it is Tentative.

Either way, I'm going to tweak the dotted outline a bit more, but I  
think we've inadvertently reached agreement. :o)

On May 2, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Matthew Eernisse wrote:

> Mimi Yin wrote:
>> But what if the web convention was a band-aid solution to make up  
>> for  a lack of desktop functionality? And now that we're able to  
>> implement  desktop functionality, do we still want the band-aid  
>> solution on top  of the real solution?
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> I guess maybe it got lost in all the discussion back and forth, but  
> in my e-mail I was trying to emphasize that the 'dotted line to  
> indicate focus' is not a Web-only bandaid solution. It's not  
> something to make up for lack of desktop functionality in the browser.
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> It's a ubiquitous Windows convention used to indicate either focus  
> or focus/selection.
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> The same little dotted line to indicate focus on UI elements shows  
> up whether you're in a Web form in IE or Mozilla, or in the  
> Settings panel for HomeSite, or in the Windows Network Setup  
> Wizard, or whatever.
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>> I think in Scooby, we should allow users to Navigate between Days  
>> of  the Week by just Selecting the Day of the Week, rather than  
>> having to  do the whole Focus + Enter thing. This kind of Auto- 
>> Selection is  exactly the kind of interaction that makes Desktop  
>> apps feel smooth.
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> I think this is a great idea. I can take a quick look-see at how  
> easy it would be to add basic event-to-event navigation for Scooby  
> that works this way. It already works that way for a single click  
> on an event lozenge.
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> I'm a bit confused here though, because initially this discussion  
> (I think) started off with the idea of showing 'tentative' status  
> events with the essentially the same dotted line normally used to  
> indicate focus. How would you indicate that an event has focus/ 
> selection if it already had something as its border that looked  
> exactly like a focus indication?
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> If the idea is to blow off focus indication completely for lozenges  
> and just select the event outright, then it might be a moot point. :)
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