[Design] What is the minimum feature set we can put up with in an
early release of Chandler?
Ted Leung
twl at osafoundation.org
Fri Jul 14 15:37:04 PDT 2006
On Jul 14, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Katie Capps Parlante wrote:
> Mikeal Rogers wrote:
>> I guess I just took for granted that one of our end goals was a
>> complete replacement for people's current email clients.
>> I think our long term goals should be as ambitious as possible and
>> I hope that one of our long term goals is a full email client
>> replacement. I assumed Sheila's email was more about short term
>> email in Chandler, and on that I agree that we should be trying to
>> integrate with existing clients rather than trying to replace them
>> while I do believe it is important that we have enough of our own
>> email functionality in Chandler that we can show off the other
>> integrated features that tie in to email as an input and
>> communication medium. Email is just too integrated a part of
>> peoples lives that we can expect them to move completely to
>> Chandler for email unless we have everything they already use, but
>> we'd loose out on a lot of valuable users if we waited to try and
>> attract them until we were totally finished with email in Chandler.
>
> I think we're all in agreement about the long run -- email is very
> important to the full vision of Chandler.
Yes, yes, yes. And RSS too, but don't get me started on that...
>
> The short run is the harder problem.
>
> The question I'm asking: Is there a bare bones feature set that
> would allow early adopters to use Chandler as an email client? What
> is that feature set?
Ok, so after yesterday's discussion, I started to think about exactly
what the feature set would be for me. When I "came in" this
morning, I watched all the operations that I did as I processed all
three of my IMAP accounts.
Here are the actions that I actually did:
* view messages by thread
* delete a message
* select a message and execute an Applescript/zsh script suite to
kill comment spam postings off my blog - I think we can safely call
this an outlier feature
* select messages and use Mail Act-On! to execute an applescript
that examines each message and files it correctly by looking at
combinations of the mail headers - call this "filing"
* click on a URL embedded in a browser
* mark some read messages as unread for later re-processing - give me
a triage based workflow for this
* reply to messages, including editing the to/cc lines because our
default list reply to is wrong, i did work on several replies
simultaneously.
* send new e-mail messages (to remembered previous recipients)
That's it.
There are a few more actions which I do less frequently, which I
didn't do this morning:
* paste text from the clipboard into a composition/reply window
* verify/decrypt a PGP signed/encrypted message. Bear and Heikki, I
blame you... - consider this one very optional
* search for a particular message
* look at the raw source of a message - as a way of doing an
antiphishing check before deleting
* work offline
* send again
* download an attachment
* attach a file via a standard file dialog (I don't do drag and drop
attachments)
Things I don't do:
* compose HTML mail
>
> We've asked this question before, and the general answer was that
> email clients have to be quite good before people will switch. The
> reason I'm bringing it up again is that Philippe had made noises
> about being willing to use Chandler as an email client even if it
> had few features and paled in comparison to other existing email
> clients. We certainly couldn't rely on all users being willing to
> do this, hence the "bridging the gap" thread.
For the work that I am doing, being able to triage and effectively
organize my mail would be a big enough gain to compensate for the
loss of "full featuredness". I know that I am not everyone, but I
am saying that my information management problems are pressing enough
that I would be willing to try before we could match Mail.app or
Thunderbird on feature checklist scorecard.
>
> I agree with you that there is a real benefit to having 'plausible'
> email features in the short run, to give a taste of where the
> project is headed. It would be great if those features that
> demonstrated plausibility actually enabled some early adopters to
> use Chandler as a primary email client. (Perhaps this is wishful
> thinking).
Well, now you have one person's list...
Ted
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