[Design][Chandler][Sum] focus in the sidebar

[Mimi Yin]

ooh, good point, I should think so.

On Jan 11, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Jeffrey Harris wrote:

> +1 to this general proposal.  One clarifying question: Should double
> clicking (which currently edits the collection name) leave the sidebar
> with focus?
>
> Mimi Yin wrote:
>> I'm going to attempt to summarize this briefly and attempt to wrap up
>> this issue (for 0.7) with a proposal/decision.
>>
>> Given that we think most of the time users have their focus in the
>> summary pane and not in the sidebar, BUT
>>
>> Keeping in mind that there are times when they will want to focus  
>> their
>> attention and therefore the keyboard in the sidebar AND
>>
>> Given that computers still can't read minds,
>>
>> Let's try the following design in 0.7 (and flag this as an issue  
>> we want
>> to keep on top of when it comes time to collect and process dogfood
>> feedback).
>>
>> 1. Single click in the sidebar does NOT shift keyboard focus to  
>> the sidebar
>> 2. Click and then click again to shift focus to the sidebar AND/OR
>> 3. Use the Tab key AND/OR
>> 4. Click on sharing or info (if the collection isn't shared) icon  
>> AND/OR
>> 5. Select menu item: Collection>>View details
>>
>> to shift focus to the sidebar and replace item detail view with
>> collection detail view.
>>
>> Mimi
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Katie Capps Parlante wrote:
>>
>>> Mimi Yin wrote:
>>>> Has anyone used both clients and noticed the difference? If you  
>>>> have
>>>> any personal anecdotes, please share.
>>>
>>> I was recently cursing Thunderbird -- here was my scenario:
>>>
>>> 1. Initially, the "Inbox" was selected, focus in the summary pane.
>>> 2. I hit the down arrow key repeatedly to change the selected  
>>> message,
>>> walking through each one in order.
>>> 3. Some message would cause me to want to look in another folder, so
>>> I'd  use the mouse to select the other folder.
>>> 4. I'd look for a message in the other folder, selecting various
>>> messages in the summary pane.
>>> 5. I'd use the mouse to select "Inbox" again, and notice that it
>>> remembered my selection ("yay!")
>>> 6. I'd hit the down arrow key to move to the next message.
>>> 7. The focus had remained in the sidebar, so "Inbox" changed to  
>>> "Drafts"
>>> 8. Thunderbird crashed.
>>>
>>> Ok, so the crash has nothing to do with the focus issue, just a
>>> problem with Thunderbird and the state of my Drafts folder :). The
>>> sad/embarassing part is that I repeated the exact same steps 4  
>>> times!
>>> Even though the mistake was costly, and even though I had *just*  
>>> been
>>> through the same sequence, I kept unconsciously making the same
>>> cognitive error. I believe the variants that Mimi and Alec have
>>> described where the focus remained in the summary pane (most of the
>>> time) would have more closely matched what I wanted/expected.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Katie
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