[Design] Floating timezones

Sheila Mooney sheila at osafoundation.org
Fri Jan 6 12:43:35 PST 2006


I think determining whether or not to set the visibility of timezones  
on/off is still up for discussion. It's a preference so I think it's  
fine to select a default for 0.7 and see what kind of feedback we  
get. It's not like we can't change this easily in a future release.  
We are currently discussing having a number of other calendar  
preferences for 0.7 (number of hours displayed, events in the preview  
pane etc). For this reason, I think people will discover the timezone  
feature in the preferences fairly easily.

+ 1 on handling the default timezones (regardless of visibility)  
similar to iCal. I see a floating timezone as something a user would  
want to set explicitly, not have set by default. I also don't like  
the idea (as Jeffrey pointed out) of having to convert shares and  
imported calendars.

On Jan 6, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Bryan Stearns wrote:

> +1 to all of Philippe's summation.
>
> Philippe Bossut wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So it seems clear now thanks to Grant and Jeffrey analysis that  
>> iCal doesn't do item TZ modification when changing the pref and  
>> neither should we. Good.
>>
>> Jeffrey Harris wrote:
>>
>>> Do we really want timezone UI to be invisible by default?  Even  
>>> if there
>>> are dissenters, I think more than 50% of our target users will  
>>> regularly
>>> use time zones, how do we help them discover the time zone  
>>> features if
>>> they're hidden by default?
>>>
>> This is the problem with prefs in general (discoverability). We  
>> already had a similar discussion when discussing prefs in general  
>> on the dev list in November (http://lists.osafoundation.org/ 
>> pipermail/dev/2005-November/004298.html) with wildely differing  
>> views. I think we agreed on saying that preferences are useful but  
>> we shouldn't hide important critical data in them.
>> In this particular instance, I think that people motivated by TZ  
>> will go check the prefs though (as they do in iCal). However, that  
>> also means that the default behavior should be consistent with  
>> other apps and the system and that we should use the system local  
>> TZ (as iCal does) rather than floating (which is a rather unusual  
>> setting). I think most people assume that system wide prefs are  
>> used as appropriate by all apps.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Philippe
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