[Design] Jabber in Chandler

Daniel Vareika dvareika at vareika.com.uy
Fri Dec 2 07:40:13 PST 2005


Dear Joel,

 From the little I know OSAF and Mimi, those are their goals.
They are mine too, and new interfaces/concepts are needed indeed.

But for now, we have to be a little patient (I know sometimes I am not).
Technology like Wxwidgets is very restrictive, at least for now.

Fresh Ideas, Concepts, Frustrations that might enlighten the path are 
more than welcome.
The more the better, no matter how little might they sound, or big and 
far fetched.
All of them contribute in one way or another.

You are more than welcome.

Yours,

Daniel


joel finkle wrote:
>> From: Mimi Yin <mimi at osafoundation.org>
>> What if we never have to be a email client replacement? What if  
>> instead, you have sharing to do file and content sharing and IM for  
>> conversations?
>
> Think bigger. What if Chandler is a 'desktop'?
> I hate saying that, because do we need to continue with the 
> 25-year-old desktop metaphor?
> The early GUI personal computers replaced the paradigm of a solitary 
> office worker, but that's not what we do anymore.
>
> The average office worker is interconnected in ways we could not be 
> with the first Mac, Windows or Xerox interfaces:  IM, video 
> teleconferencing, document collaboration... and yet we're still 
> playing with icons on a dektop, as if we're picking up our rolodex 
> from the upper right corner to leaf through it (where's the pencil 
> sharpener and stapler?).  Even newer desktops such as KDE and Gnome 
> follow the same old metaphor.
>
> A large amount of my work is still creation of documents, but filing 
> them in a cabinet is not my goal, it's distributing, publishing, 
> sharing, collaboration and review.
>
> How do you create a new metaphor?  I don't know. But the blotter and 
> filing cabinet is obsolete.
> There are hints out there that never worked: Microsoft Outlook's 
> Journal, for instance, organizes your work in time rather than place.  
> The tabbed browser with sidebars reflects our multitasking, 
> high-interruptability lifestyle.  "Web 2.0" sites such as Netvibes.com 
> and live.com are putting organization of information closer to our grasp.
>
> An interview with Dean Kamen in Make magazine talked about the design 
> of the iBot, the standing wheelchair.  In it, he said that focus 
> groups on wheelchairs never would have come up with one that stands 
> up: you'd probably end up with better cup holders.
>
> I have to admit I have not had the chance to play with the latest 
> prototypes of Chandler, so some of this may be redundant, but perhaps 
> I'll spark a couple brain cells together out there.
>
> Joel Finkle
> Racconteur and general annoyance
>
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