[cosmo-dev] Safari 2

Travis Vachon travis at osafoundation.org
Mon Nov 19 11:16:20 PST 2007


Hi folks

Just wanted to wrap up this thread. On the design list Ted wrote:

 > People are in favor of dropping support for Safari 2 in favor of  
Safari 3.   I'm in agreement with that, although I'd say the target  
for that ought to be 0.11 not 0.10
 >
 > The question of a gateway page for Safari 2 users is still open.    
I think that there is a small window of time while people have not  
upgraded.  We've never talked about a JS
 > detection page before, so I'm not really sure that this is  
important as it's being made out to be.    For that reason, I'm in  
favor of a solution that doesn't require a lot of energy.
 > We have bigger problems that we need to solve.

and Mimi replied:

 > If it's just a matter of time before the few Safari 2 users we have  
are all on Safari 3, I think it'd be ok to not have screenshots etc.



Given this, I'd like to propose we follow Ted's suggestion to drop  
Safari 2 support for 0.11 and not implement a JS detection page until  
we hear user complaints. If interested parties could respond by the  
end of today that would be great!

-Travis


On Nov 15, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Katie Capps Parlante wrote:

> Would a "static" screen shot work just as well as loading the ui,  
> with careful attention to positive, friendly wording?
>
> I noticed that twitter and some facebook apps to a good job of being  
> light and friendly when telling the user that the app is down. It  
> has a surprisingly positive affect on me personally!
>
> Uh, and shouldn't this conversation be on the design list?
>
> Cheers,
> Katie
>
> Bobby Rullo wrote:
>> I disagree. I think what would really scare people off is just  
>> seeing the "processing..." link and nothing else. Or just a blank  
>> page.
>> It's not really possible to just let people get a certain way, and  
>> then when it breaks to warn them. The only safe way is to warn them  
>> up front. Maybe this is what you are saying though.
>> Anyhow, this is not just for Safari 2, this would be for all known  
>> unsupported browsers.
>> bobby
>> On Nov 15, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Mimi Yin wrote:
>>> I would let people get as far as loading the UI so they can get a  
>>> peak (assuming it will continue to load nicely). It would be a  
>>> shame to lose people by scaring them too much. We should at least  
>>> try to get a hook in - "Look at how cool this could be. Don't you  
>>> want to upgrade your browser so you can try it out?"
>>>
>>> We can load the UI (logged in or ticket view). Pop-up a dialog.  
>>> And make sure the user understands that if the experience isn't so  
>>> great, it's the browsers fault.
>>>
>>> Is Safari 2 the only browser we're going to do this for? If yes, I  
>>> think we should say 'no longer supported'. It sounds nicer than  
>>> just plain ole 'not supported'. Plus it's the truth!
>>>
>>> ===
>>> Your browser Safari version 2.x is no longer supported.
>>> Try one of these instead: Safari 3 | Firefox
>>>
>>>                                            [Close]
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