[cosmo-dev] Safari 2

Mikeal Rogers mikeal at osafoundation.org
Thu Nov 15 12:08:56 PST 2007


+1 if we literally use the wording "this might suck"

-Mikeal

On Nov 15, 2007, at November 15, 200712:06 PM, Travis Vachon wrote:

> A message on the login screen would work for users with accounts,  
> but the ticketed workflow is a little trickier.
>
> Really, we should stop before we run any Javascript. How about on  
> unsupported browsers we have a message the pops up before dojo  
> initialization which says "this might suck" with download links for  
> supported browsers and a button or link that says "do it anyway!"  
> which would kick off the JS?
>
> -Travis
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> Your browser is not supported. Try one of these:
>
> <firefox link> <safari 3 link> <ie 7 link>
>
> If you're brave <log in anyway>.
>
> -----------------
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Bobby Rullo wrote:
>
>> Where/when do you display this message? As an interstitial? As a  
>> pop up and fadeaway?
>>
>> bobby
>> On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Matthew Eernisse wrote:
>>
>>> Blacklisting -- i.e., not letting people log in at all -- might be  
>>> a bit draconian, given that there may be *degrees* of brokenness  
>>> even in a known bad browser. :)
>>>
>>> An alternative would be to whitelist the supported browsers, and  
>>> present the rest with a message of "your browser is unsupported,  
>>> use at your own risk. Here are our supported browsers" -- but  
>>> still allow people to log in.
>>>
>>> This makes it clear that things may be broken (whether it's  
>>> because the browser is too old, too new, too experimental, or too  
>>> minor a player), and puts the onus on the user to decide what to  
>>> do. We wouldn't have to maintain a blacklist.
>>>
>>> This is what we did at my last job (over a period of seven years  
>>> or so and many browser upgrades), and it seemed to work reasonably  
>>> well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>> Bobby Rullo wrote:
>>>> +1 IFF we have a page for "unsupported browsers" - like "Your  
>>>> browser is not supported by Chandler Server. Please use one of  
>>>> the following..."
>>>> Most sites accomplish this via a whitelist - only allow known  
>>>> supported browsers. I am against that in principle - it basically  
>>>> says "only browsers which we know can play along" and it means  
>>>> that if some new cool browser/platform is introduced which  
>>>> completely supports web-standards we would be blocking them just  
>>>> because we didn't know about them.
>>>> For this reason I'd rather have a blacklist - block versions web  
>>>> browsers of the major families (Firefox, Safari, IE) which are  
>>>> known to break.
>>>> bobby
>>>
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