[cosmo-dev] Safari 2

Matthew Eernisse mde at osafoundation.org
Wed Nov 14 15:03:48 PST 2007


+1

1. It's a tiny slice of our user population
2. It's being rolled out in Software Update
3. It's not a browser that IT departments are likely to have 
standardized on (a la IE6)
4. Apple users tend to upgrade quickly
5. It will suck way less than Safari 2, so the dev/testing load should 
be lower

Travis Vachon wrote:
> +1
> On Nov 14, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Mikeal Rogers wrote:
> 
>> I don't think this adds confusion, I think it basically solves our 
>> dilemma.
>>
>> We've always supported the "latest" Safari 2 as updated through the 
>> operating system. If Tiger users have a Safari upgrade path it's only 
>> a matter of time before the vast majority are using Safari 3.
>>
>> +1 to cutting Safari 2 for Safari 3.
>>
>> -Mikeal
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2007, at November 14, 20071:56 PM, Ted Leung wrote:
>>
>>> Not to add any more confusion, but as of 10.4.11, Safari 3 is the 
>>> default on Tiger, as well...
>>>
>>> <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306297>
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Travis Vachon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks
>>>>
>>>> With the release of Leopard many of us (developers and qa) are 
>>>> currently unable to test Safari 2. I'm not totally sure what the 
>>>> best solution to this is. Ideally we could install Safari 2 
>>>> alongside 3 and continue testing happily, but so far the search for 
>>>> easy ways to do this has been fruitless.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to use this thread to consider a number of possible ways we 
>>>> can handle this. Off the top of my head:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Discontinue support for Safari 2.
>>>> 2) Provide a semi-public instance of Tiger for testing and set 
>>>> appropriate parties up with access.
>>>> 3) Invest some cycles figuring out a way to run both Safari 2 and 3 
>>>> on Leopard.
>>>> 4) ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For what it's worth I think we should seriously consider 1) in the 
>>>> next few months. In my mind Safari's browser share doesn't justify 
>>>> supporting old versions in the same way we support IE 6. That said, 
>>>> if a Tiger release of Safari 3 is in the works it might be good to 
>>>> wait for that.
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time I'm not sure which of 2 or 3 I find more appealing. 
>>>> Both seem like a non-trivial amount of pain, but 3 seems like a 
>>>> potential goose chase.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> -Travis
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