[chandler-users] Is Chandler the Successor to Lotus Agenda?

[Mark A. Weiss]

Davor,

Thanks for the response.  I too used Agenda and then Ecco Pro.  I switched to Ecco after the company  I was working for at the time adopted the Windows 3.1 platform.  We were having problems running Agenda from Windows.  If I remember correctly it crashed a lot.  I moved away from Ecco after I purchased a Phillips Velo to replace my Zaurus.  I couldn't sync the Velo to my Ecco data.  I switched to Outlook about that time.

You mentioned you were still using Agenda for some applications.  Can I ask if and how you either print of export the data?  I tend to write a lot of notes for my three businesses and community activities  that I am engaged in.  Currently I have a folder of paper notes looking for a searchable home.  The notes are tasks and are not time/date driven.  I Googled "Lotus Agenda" a few weeks ago to see if people were still using it.  That's how I found about Chandler.

Agenda would be the perfect solution for my application but I am reluctant to use it if I can't print or export my data.  Any thoughts on how you address these issues would be most appreciated.

Thanks!

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: chandler-users-bounces at osafoundation.org [mailto:chandler-users-bounces at osafoundation.org] On Behalf Of Davor Cubranic
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 1:21 AM
To: Chandler users
Subject: Re: [chandler-users] Is Chandler the Successor to Lotus Agenda?

Wow, has it really been that long since that announcement? 

But I agree, that's what first led me to Chandler, too. And there was a 
lot of Agenda in Chandler initially, reflecting Kapor's influence and 
those announcements, and actually there still is, underneath the UI. 
(See its data engine, with Items, attributes, and relations. I 
sometimes wonder if Chandler's UI could be ripped out and the engine 
used to re-implement Agenda's features and focus.) But calendaring took 
on more prominence with time, and collaboration has had as high a 
priority as personal information management as long as I've been 
following the project. Those are not bad things, either -- the way we 
use computers today is way different than what we did in the DOS years. 

And while Chandler is not Agenda, it still works well for me and I use 
it daily as my main information manager. It's better for keeping track 
of tasks, events, and to-dos than for pure information tidbits, so I 
still have some files that I started, and still maintain, in Agenda -- 
they just don't translate that well to Chandler's work model and UI. 
Ditto with other tidbits that I still keep in EccoPro (esp. my address 
book!). But honestly, I don't know of another open-source calendaring 
or information management project that works better. (If you do, let me 
know. :-)

Davor

On Saturday 22 March 2008 18:48:47 Mark A. Weiss wrote:
> Thanks Davor.
>
> I was searching Lotus Agenda and found Mitch Kapor's weblog from
> 10/18/02 where he wrote:
>
> "The product, which is central to the whole undertaking, is a new
> take on the Personal Information Manager. It will handle email,
> appointments, contacts and tasks, as well as be used to exchange
> information with other people, and do it all in the spirit of Lotus
> Agenda, about which more here and here. Agenda, for those who aren't
> familiar with it, was a DOS product I designed (along with Jerry
> Kaplan) in the late 1980's which introduced a new kind of database
> optimized for entering small items of information in a free-form
> manner, and then adding organizational categories on-the-fly. It was
> much beloved by a few, despite (or perhaps because) being abandoned
> by Lotus."
>
> That search led me down the path to other postings that tied Agenda
> to Chandler.  OSAF changed direction somewhere down the line.  It's a
> shame because an open source program with Agenda capabilities would
> be an incredible asset.  I imagine that many of the current Agenda
> users would find it valuable too.
>
> Anyway, thanks again for your help.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chandler-users-bounces at osafoundation.org
> [mailto:chandler-users-bounces at osafoundation.org] On Behalf Of Davor
> Cubranic Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:07 PM
> To: Chandler users
> Subject: Re: [chandler-users] Is Chandler the Successor to Lotus
> Agenda?
>
> On Saturday 22 March 2008 15:52:21 Mark A. Weiss wrote:
> > Thanks for the response.  I am not a programmer, just a plain old
> > end user.  If the ability to parse information to categories on the
> > fly is not a core part of Chandler's features, why the talk about
> > it being the successor to Agenda?
>
> I don't think I've heard anyone from OSAF make that claim in the last
> five years, if not longer. See blog.osafoundation.org for their (I'm
> just a Chandler user, too) current vision and direction.
>
> Davor
> _______________________________________________
> chandler-users mailing list
> chandler-users at osafoundation.org
> http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/chandler-users
_______________________________________________
chandler-users mailing list
chandler-users at osafoundation.org
http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/chandler-users