[chandler-users] The story of a new user

[Mimi Yin]

On Mar 17, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Andrew Smart wrote:

> What would be wonderful is a way to share collaborations across  
> groups as well. For instance, I am a member of a lab with a group  
> of people who physically work at the lab. But I, independently of  
> the group, also collaborate with researchers in Sweden, France etc.  
> based on projects in which we have a mutual interest.  Other  
> members of the group here collaborate with people from other groups  
> on their own projects. It is of course really difficult to  
> coordinate all this. And groups form and dissolve all the time when  
> a project starts or is completed. When the group dissolves all of  
> the useful things the group learns about organizing collaborations  
> dissolves too. It would be great to be able to use Chandler to  
> store a platform for collaboration, so that when a new research  
> group forms we can just say "here is how this is organized" and  
> everyone can be literally on the same page from day one. Groups in  
> research are often more like transient assemblies of people working  
> on some problem. When the problem is solved, or more accurately  
> when there is a paper about the problem, the members of group move on.
> I know this isn't very concrete.

Hi Andrew, Is there a reason why you couldn't try this today with  
Chandler? You can share collections of Notes and a Calendar with  
arbitrary groups of people. You can have the same Note or Event  
appear in multiple collections (which would be useful when 2 groups  
or projects overlap.)

>
> So what I mean is that for instance a person in Sweden and myself  
> think of an idea for an experiment. We have the necessary equipment  
> here so we collect the data. The guy in Sweden has developed a  
> great new way to analyze the data, so we send him the data. Now,  
> some people in France that I know have done similar experiments and  
> also take a look at the data and offer some insight. We send data,  
> upload data, make figures - back and forth for several months,  
> sometimes we meet. Eventually one or two of us sits down and puts  
> everything in a paper. We then send the paper back and forth among  
> the group members for editing and revising. We then submit the  
> paper. It hopefully gets accepted, but always with revisions. The  
> process repeats and continues. This group dissolves (for the time  
> being), I find some other collaborators etc....

It sounds like you might like Chandler to support documents. We've  
defined this as:
- A new kind of item called a Resource (in addition to Notes and Events)
- Resource items can have files attached to them
- Like Notes and Events, Resource items can be triaged and tickled  
with alarms like any other kind of item
- Like Notes, Resource items can be addressed and sent out via email,  
placed on the calendar and starred
- Resource items can belong to the same collections as Notes and Events
- Add a "Resource" Application Filter to the Toolbar

This is on the Desktop Work Q: https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/ 
show_bug.cgi?id=11339

> What I want to point out is that all of the organization of this  
> takes place ad hoc and on the fly. Often the planning of doing is  
> more work than the doing- which is where I want Chandler to come in!
>
> Re: words. Personally I think the word Focus is very intuitive for  
> me. The word Now induces a stress reaction in me. I have a range of  
> things in my current focus, but if I label something as "now" or  
> "active" I feel like I have to think about it "right now".
>
That's interesting. Worth testing out on other people.
> Sorry this is so long - but I think about this a lot :)
> andy
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