[chandler-users] using the Dashboard

[Stephen Brown]

Its not easy sometimes to avoid falling for "troll bait".  A highly 
immature posting  doesn't deserve a response.  Unfortunately pointing 
such matters out only makes, immature people act in a more aggressive 
and unstable fashion.  If he were as good as he thinks he could be some 
day, well, he wouldn't be trolling these waters looking for someone to 
tick off.  He'd be off doing something constructive, like apologizing to 
the hundreds of people he manages to inflame or disgust on any given Sunday.

Leave him be, then after his next tirade, block out his ip address.  I'm 
sure that he will continue to come back, angry as hell and even more 
eager to displease but then again, how could one not suspect as much?  
I'm tired of having to read trash from immature, inconsiderate people.  
When he grows up, he can come back in another life as a, a, ... hmm lets 
see now... I know, a troll!



Michael Ax wrote:
> Hey Katie,    I've read all the code, I've read most of the posts, 
> I've stated that I love the little dog's brilliant inspiration and 
> having spied organizational hang-ups in the process calibrated my post 
> to gauge the system-at-large's response-capability by speaking 
> candidly from my experience. I do feel validated in my impressions 
> now. Thank you.
>
> Seeing how it was dealt with only confirms the position I took.  I 
> can't change that you felt insulted personally yet I can only laugh 
> when I see an osaf peer explaining away the dashboard rationale! Its 
> what makes Chandler great! Yet its not  complete or really usable; 
> This does not bode well and explains to me why the money behind the 
> project is leaving.
>
> If you'd actually read my post you would have noticed that I'm making 
> quite heavy use of the tool at this time; We processed close to 80 new 
> items today alone -- yet there's no point in spending time detailing 
> change requests and or suggestions for you, having me do it that is, 
> with such eloquent perception management in place.
>
> Chandler is an awesome concept, but its simply not good software yet. 
> If you don't understand how anyone may be thinking that, then lets 
> talk about it again in 20 years or so.
>
> All the best!
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael Ax
>
>
> Katie Capps Parlante wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Mimi has answered Rick's initial question, and I'm sure she and 
>> others will be happy to answer follow up questions.
>>
>> Your message here doesn't seem to contribute much to the discussion 
>> beyond being sarcastic and insulting. That tone is not welcome on 
>> this list.
>>
>> This list is a forum for users who are sincerely interested in the 
>> project to ask questions, report bugs, offer feedback, and generally 
>> get and offer help. Those of us actively developing Chandler are 
>> quite willing to listen to critiques and be thoughtful about 
>> improving the product.
>>
>> Did you have something constructive to say? Are you using the 
>> product, or interested in using the product?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Katie
>>
>> Michael Ax wrote:
>>> Rick - I'm brand new to all this and I'd like to rephrase your 
>>> question and ask it myself. I know that putting words into other 
>>> people's mouth is a killing offense and I don't want to be doing 
>>> that; So here's my take on it:
>>>
>>> DASHBOARD:
>>>
>>> the point of it is that you are to be confused about what buckets 
>>> you filed anything into. once you're confused you can dream up 
>>> schemes to name your items and because your now spending more time 
>>> 'planning', get to request a larger budget for an assistant.
>>>
>>> If the tabs related to an item would simply light up when you're on 
>>> that item confusion would be lessened; If you would have visual 
>>> clues on your items being in multiple buckets/timelines then your 
>>> confusion would be lessened. This however would apply downward 
>>> pressure on your budget, make your screens easier to understand, and 
>>> it might mean the end of relating with that lovely helper.
>>>
>>> I've filed several hundred items into chandler over the last 2 weeks 
>>> and am doing my best to love this program for all the problems 
>>> created by its noob implementors. It a long term gamble on my part 
>>> actually. I trust that what I have will work when the money is gone 
>>> AND that once that happens a group can take the brilliant guts of it 
>>> and port this thing to JavaScript on the Mozilla Framework over the 
>>> course of a couple of months.
>>>
>>> I'm still only 2 weeks into sorting through an insane amount of 
>>> tasks and timelines and love the little dog for what how its 
>>> brilliantly effective in my work-flow, but looking at the code, I 
>>> see the noob prose, not the marks of folks that can get sh* out the 
>>> door with ease. Its a Rock/Hard-Place thing.
>>>
>>> Anyway, do pardon my descent into rambling. Perhaps someone else 
>>> will pipe-in and enlighten us both about how to properly behold the 
>>> awesomeness in front of us.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Michael Ax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Rawson wrote:
>>>> I suspect that I may be missing an important functionality in 
>>>> Chandler: the Dashboard. I have 7 collections and have set each one 
>>>> to "Keep out of Dashboard," since I see no utility in seeing my
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