[chandler-users] why I use Chandler and what would make me stop

[Mimi Yin]

Hi Rick,
Hi Rick,

Thanks for your frank analysis of our situation. I agree that we have  
a tough road ahead of us. As Sheila has said, we won't be able to  
address performance issues until we have a re-architected Chandler  
and we plan on having a 1.0 before that. (Although I would leave open  
the possibility that you've hit an odd bug that makes your Chandler  
run especially slow. The performance speeds you're reporting are not  
the norm as far as we know.)

That being said, in the short-term, we *are* looking to address a sub- 
set of the performance issues indirectly by detouring users around them.

For example, we are hoping to come out with a quick entry widget in  
the next month that you can access from your iGoogle homepage or  
possiby your Desktop so that when you're working outside of Chandler,  
you don't have to contend with poor performance to simply add some  
quick ideas.

We are also looking into widgets for search, notifications of new or  
edited items in shared collections etc.

In other words, we're looking for ways  we can lessen the pain of  
poor performance by making users less dependent on Chandler Desktop  
for doing everything.

It's a cheat on some level, but for us, it's more realistic that we  
can ship these kinds of solutions in the short-term than addressing  
performance with a top-to-bottom re-architecture.

See proposal for quick entry widget here: http:// 
lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/chandler-dev/2008-February/009561.html

Best,

Mimi


On Feb 5, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Sheila Mooney wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Thanks for trying out Chandler and we really appreciate the  
> detailed feedback! Addressing performance is an ongoing issue and  
> we feel your pain since it's come up many times on this list. There  
> are a few things we are trying in the short-term to provide better  
> user feedback that may help, although truly addressing the  
> performance issues involves a much bigger re-architecture project  
> which is unfortunately not in the short-term plan. We are planning  
> to have a 1.0 version before we address the major architecture issues.
>
> In the meantime, we would be interested to know more about your  
> configuration ie: what platform you are using as well as the number  
> of collections and items.
>
> Thanks again for you two cents!
>
> Cheers,
> Sheila
>
>> Are you asking, what would you switch to? I REALLY wouldn't want  
>> to do it, but I would switch to Google Calendar. Remember The Milk  
>> has just developed a method for hooking into Google Calendar and  
>> Gmail, creating a semblance of the same functionality that  
>> Chandler possesses. It is not seemless, suffers from the  
>> limitations of all web apps, runs inside another application (a  
>> browser), and is very inefficient with screen real-estate. But  
>> it's functional and does what I need. I'm using Chandler because  
>> it does it a whole lot better.
>>
>> I can't help but wonder if Google isn't looking at 1) the proof of  
>> concept with what Remember The Milk has done and 2) the market for  
>> this sort of app. They could easily throw chump change to the tune  
>> of a few million dollars to link email and calendar together along  
>> with a task list. No need for Remember The Milk and the result  
>> would give Chandler a serious run for its money. With Microsoft's  
>> recent bid to purchase Yahoo!, I'm sure Google is intent on  
>> looking in every nook and cranny for market potential. Chandler  
>> needs to effectively grab the online/collaborative/server-based  
>> PIM market and do it soon.
>>
>> Google's potential solution would be, in my opinion, second rate  
>> compared to the route that Chandler's designers have taken. But,  
>> Google has global name recognition and would have a serious jump  
>> on the PIM market out of the starting gate. I lurk on the  
>> listserves at chandlerproject.org and, based on the discussions  
>> I'm reading, believe you're asking the right questions and making  
>> the right choices. On the other hand, Google is one incredibly  
>> innovative company with a truckload of money and other resources.  
>> As long as it's stuck in Preview mode, I'll have to predict that  
>> Chandler simply won't get a foothold. We need version 1.0!
>>
>> My two cents.
>>
>> Rick Rawson
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