[chandler-users] Display of calender dates

[Mimi Yin]

Hi Allan,

I agree, we need to provide better visual feedback to differentiate  
between the dates. Here is one bug for that: https:// 
bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10930 - to grey out the  
"last mod" date so that only the calendar and tickler alarm dates  
stand out in black.

I believe there are others.

We could also label the dates the way we label the WHO column  
attributes, with little prefixes:

ed - edited
st - starts
rem - reminder

Thanks for sending in the feedback!

Mimi

On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Allan Day wrote:

> One thing that I've sometimes struggled with is knowing exactly  
> what the entries in the date column refer to. Are they the time the  
> item was last modified, the time of an alarm, or the time of a  
> calendar event? The clock symbol in the alarm column does give some  
> feedback, though it's connection with the date isn't always  
> obvious. I do like the idea of having different kinds of dates in  
> this column, but I do wonder whether it would be possible to make  
> it clear which type of date is being displayed in each row.
>
> I realise this might not be practical, or that it might go against  
> the kind of logic that Chandler is going for. I just thought I'd  
> throw it out there! ;)
>
> Allan
>
>
> Keith Winsor wrote:
>> Mimi,
>>
>> I'm not Stuart, but comments inline :-)
>>
>> Mimi Yin wrote:
>>> Hi Stuart,
>>>
>>> The thinking behind displaying custom alarm dates in the List  
>>> View is that generally speaking, they represent the next  
>>> important date for that event: e.g. I'm attending a wedding in  
>>> August, but I set a Custom Alarm set for when I need to RSVP for  
>>> the wedding (June 10th). So the wedding event represents 2 things  
>>> to me:
>>>
>>> 1. Task to RSVP to wedding
>>> 2. Wedding event on my calendar
>>>
>>> And the next important thing to worry about is the RSVP date.
>> I agree that this is a typical use for a custom alarm. Other  
>> examples:
>>    - there's a gig in August - remind me in July to give me time  
>> to book tickets if my calendar is free by then
>>    - my credit card needs paying - remind me ten days before the  
>> payment has to arrive
>>
>> I don't think the date of the alarm is significant enough to need  
>> displaying. It's not important that you RSVP/buy tickets/pay bill  
>> on the exact day of the alarm, just that you do it a good time  
>> ahead of the actual event. It's a 'pop to Now to remind me in  
>> advance to RSVP' kind of thing. The date of the event is what I  
>> need to see in the list - the mere fact it jumps to Now in advance  
>> is all I need to remind me of the task associated with it (which  
>> is recorded in the item note anyway), and the amount of 'advance'  
>> I set takes into account how long it's likely to take me to carry  
>> out the preparatory task.
>>> In my mind, this is different from alarms that are set for say 15  
>>> minutes before an event. Those aren't displayed in the List View  
>>> because they're simply a way to remind you of when the event starts.
>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> Can I ask what you set Custom Alarm dates for?
>> Anything that has a potential action that must be done before the  
>> event I'm creating:
>>
>>    - buy worm tablet for cat, so that I can treat on the right  
>> day, three-monthly
>>    - monthly payment for 'something' is due: transfer funds from  
>> savings account to current account (um... checking account, over  
>> there? Don't get me started on mis-spelling 'cheque' ;-)
>>    - family birthdays, remember to buy/send card and gift
>>    - car insurance due, start getting quotes
>>    - car MoT due (statutory annual roadworthiness check), get car  
>> serviced in advance
>>
>> In every example I can think of, the event date is important and  
>> the alarm date is merely when I want to be reminded that it's  
>> imminent. It really is the Chandler/GtD ethos of forgetting about  
>> it until I need to remember.
>>
>> Looking forward to 1.0
>>
>> Keith
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