[chandler-users] General Chandler thoughts...
Dan Dawson
dawson-lists at mounthermon.org
Fri Mar 23 13:47:08 PST 2007
First of all, I just wanted to say I love the concept of Chandler and
the system is off to a great start!
Generally, I'm kind of addicted to my calendar, started using a Palm
back in 97 or so, use Pimlico Software's DateBk6 on the Palm that has
some awesome features I still haven't seen on other calendars
(Floating Events) and then as soon as I switched back to Mac, used
iCal and had them all playing nicely.
I work with several small groups of people, for some we share camera
equipment and record when each person has it checked out, we invite
each other to work on certain projects, and even at the office we
schedule group meetings and wanted to have a general corporate
calendar of events.
Of course our IT guy is planning on a full deployment of Exchange
but... well, I like alternatives ;-) So a few thoughts, starting
with specifics and then going to general philosophy, all with the
overarching view that your team has done a great job and the future
is bright!
* I created several osaf.us accounts for a few of our users. Created
calendars for each (either blank or importing iCal data) The
complaints from my general users are slow load times (Two on XP and
one Intel Mac) and lack of a month view. I keep reminding them that
future releases will certainly address the issues, and that at this
point we're just testing the software and methods out.
* I use http://icalx.com/ for sharing my read-only iCal data with
other people in my group, they can easily import them in to their own
iCal, etc. Of course, I can retain this functionality with Chandler
and have even more options which is great. For syncing my two Macs I
was using MySync which was free and did an excellent job of syncing
my calendars and contacts bi-directionally between my machines. Mark/
Space bought them, and that was the end of free, so I'm currently
trying out .Mac for free until I decide to purchase that (uugh...) or
pay $50 for SyncTogether.
The problem I immediately noticed was that my Cosmo URL's in iCal
break as soon as I do the second .Mac sync! In the calendar URL that
I'm subscribed to, everything past the question mark goes missing
after the second sync. I know this is an Apple problem, but if they
don't fix it... you might have to address a work around on your side.
* Another thought for the future, a side project that wouldn't
actually be a part of this project at all. Originally to let people
read and write one shared calendar, we used Google Calendars with a
shared login, well, have you guys seen Spanning Sync? It brings bi-
directional calendar editing for Google right in to iCal! It looks
like an excellent piece of software from my limimted testing. It
would be great if someone would build one to support Cosmo in iCal
for people who don't want to (yet) switch from iCal to Chandler.
* And this is where I really don't want to step on any toes, I'm not
directly involved in this project in any way, and haven't even been
monitoring the list for more than a month or so... but here's my
random thoughts... iCal is an awesome application, it does what it
does very very well, and it's simple to use, and it's relatively
fast. It has a large user base due partially to those reasons.
Chandler is extremely promising, it brings us the ability to do
things that iCal can't, and probably won't do. I look forward to
becoming a full-time Chandler user as it continues to grow and
develop. But it does seem that the project has been underway for
quite a long time, and though there are TONS of great ideas for the
future... the primary goal should be to make a good, functional
calendar, and add other features only once that first step is
completed. Some items I'd set as some priorities:
* Speed Enhancements in almost all areas
* Clean and Simple UI - There are still icons that I don't really
know what they do or how they work. My fault for not reading
documentation but... I never read the docs on Google Cal or iCal
either ;-)
* Month view of the calendar - Every paper wall calendar in every
home or office is a month view...
* Drop or hide some of the "features" if people happen to not want
them, and probably reduce their priorities on development until
primary features are more operational. It is *very* doubtful most of
my users will consider switching their Mail applications to Chandler
any time soon, I love Mac Mail, I loved Thunderbird before that...
it's going to have to be a major advantage for me to consider leaving
one of those for a new application. Perhaps a "lite" version of
Chandler that was Calendar and Tasks only would be faster to develop
and deploy to a group of "real world" users. An easy to use cross-
platform calendar could really take off it would seem, especially if
it played well with iCal and Exchange, and helped people realize on
their own that it was *better* than both of those through use and
functionality.
I understand the powerful nature of having one monster application
that "does it all" but Calendars, Mail, RSS, Tasks, Flickr searching
and Amazon Wish Lists... all could be powerful but I'd aim for
proving the product in the market before going to that level of
detail. Doing one thing "right" is much more powerful than doing a
lot of things in a mediocre fashion when it comes to winning new users.
Of course I do have my own wish lists in addition to some of the above:
* Custom calendar colors
* Floating events (they move forward day by day if not completed on
the previous day)
* Better searching of events
* More sharing preferences (Share title only, title and notes, busy
only, etc)
I hope this kind of feedback might in some small way be helpful,
again, I wanted to encourage the whole team, and if ever I learned
some Python I'd love to be a more direct part in helping out. If
ever I could be of assistance in providing feedback or thoughts don't
hesitate to let me know. I will continue trying to spread Chandler
through our building user by user and hopefully get enough users on
it that we might avoid the Exchange server all together :-)
--Dan Dawson
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