[chandler-users] [d/f] Assorted Usage Notes

Mimi Yin mimi at osafoundation.org
Tue Jun 26 13:27:19 PDT 2007


Hi Andre,

These are really helpful dogfooding notes. Please see in-line...I've  
drafted you to log some bugs, 3 to be exact ;o)

Aparna, can you scroll down? There's a question for you in bold.

Thanks Andre! Mimi

On Jun 22, 2007, at 8:45 PM, Andre Mueninghoff wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I would like to offer my list of random nitnoid feedback notes that  
> I have accumulated while using Chandler. I primarily sync with  
> myself across my home and office instances of Chandler. These are  
> in no particular order. I apologize for not having searched in  
> bugzilla for existing coverage of these items. Also, some of these  
> may be bugs, but I defer to the Chandler QA.
>
> 1. Contacts
>
> -When contacts are implemented, it would be helpful if there was a  
> nickname field for each contact and the option to display the  
> nickname in the Who column in the triage table view. I typically  
> drag the right-hand border of the Who column to the left to show  
> only the first name/first part of the email address displayed there.

Yes! I've experienced this as well. We do this in the Detail View to  
make room for the edited on / sent on date/time, so I imagine we can  
do this for the who column as well.

Logged as: https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9656

>
> 2. Detail View
>
> - For an event-stamped item, when tabbing from title in the DV,  
> there is no indication when one is in the all-day field.

Yes, we don't have full keyboard support for all of the form fields.  
This is a known issue and something we hope to address post-preview.

>
> - For an event-stamped item, in the Location field, the Enter key  
> does not work as expected to populate the field from the previous  
> values list that opens when typing. (Love that type-ahead feature  
> though.)

Yup, I believe this is a known bug, but I can't seem to find it.  
Aparna, am I just imagining this?

>
> - When in the summary/note of an item, when I next use the tab key,  
> I would prefer the focus to move next to the title of the same item  
> not into the side bar to the name of the collection of which the  
> item is a member.

Yup, part of the keyboard support mentioned above.

> - After commiting edits to an item's title with the Enter key, the  
> focus moves to the Summary area of the item and selects all text in  
> the Summary section. I would prefer at a minimum for the select-all  
> not to happen next to avoid being regularly one stray key stroke  
> away from potentially disasterous data loss.

Ooh, I've noticed this when setting other attributes on the DV as  
well. Andre, would you mind logging this as a bug?

> 3. Master password
>
> - More experimentation is required, but it seems to me that if I se  
> the timeout of the master password to 180 minutes that it will not  
> timeout at all as long as the OS (WinXP) is active. For example,  
> hibernating my laptop will trigger the timeout, that is, I am  
> prompted again for the password when I unhibernate my laptop.

Being discussed in a separate thread.

>
> 4. Edit/Updates
>
> - It seems to me there would be value in a counterpart to the  
> "Apply Changes" functionality, that is, a "Send Changes" function  
> that would permit the selective sending of field-level changes, or  
> minimally, a Don't Send Updates option at the item level. (I think  
> this may well have been covered in the specs and on the lists, but  
> I have not read all of the traffic, so sending this anyway.)

Being discussed in a separate thread.

> - In the DV, using the delete key to delete the leading char (even  
> if a space) in the summary of an item does not result in the byline  
> changing to indicate "edited by XXX on current date/time" or a  
> change to the Last Modified Date shown in the table.

Hmmm, we've been having other issues with the last modified by not  
updating as well. Could you log this?

>
> - At some point in the future, it would be useful to have more than  
> only one level of undo (ctrl-Z on Windows) when editing text fields.

Amen.

>
> 5. Sync
>
> - A "Last Sync Completed at [date/time]" on the status bar would be  
> useful and reassuring.

Per collection? As you switch from collection to collection? It's  
currently in the Manage share dialog, which is pretty inaccessible. I  
will ask Morgen if we can have it in the status bar instead.

>
> 6. Table View
>
> - When sorting on the date(last modified) column, I would prefer  
> that the first click in the column title resulted in a reverse  
> chronological order. I am most frequently looking for more recently  
> created/edited items.

Hi Andre, the Date sorting is rather complex in that it's not always  
displayed the date last modified. We've had quite a lot of discussion  
around this on the design list and it's something we plan to address  
in a more top-down way, post-preview. The short version is: Yes  
sorting by date last modified should be supported :)

I've logged this as: https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi? 
id=9658

> - Clicking in the "empty space" in the vertical scroll bar seems to  
> cause the table view to jump by a number of items that is relative  
> to the vertical location in the vertical scroll bar that I click.  
> Perhaps this is a Windows XP thing or something, but my expectation  
> is that the list will scroll up or down by only one length (of the  
> number of items able to be displayed) regardless of where I cliick  
> in the vertical scroll bar above or below the vertical scroll  
> widget thing.

Please log :)

> - When in the focus is in the table view and commiting an edit to  
> the title of a recurring event, the All-This-Cancel dialogue is not  
> in the focus. One is forced to use the mouse to select the desired  
> choice.

Part of keyboard support mentioned above.

>
> - I found it very useful to have the ability to view calendar items  
> also in a table view in addition to the calendar date view, and I  
> would prefer to have it returned. (I guess I missed the list  
> discussion where it was decided to remove it or something.)

Yes, we are all in agreement that having multiple views on the same  
data is useful. There are a number of outstanding bugs on the view  
selector and so we've decided to move it to the Tools menu where  
people are less likely to trip over it. Feel free to continue using  
it from the Tools menu however, it's definitely something we want to  
understand better and re-address post-preview.

> 7. In/Out Collections
>
> - It would be helpful if Item-Remove actually removed items from  
> the In and Out collections.

Huh, it should work. Please log a bug. It would be helpful to know a  
little more about the item you tried to remove.
Is it shared?
Is it in other collections?
How did it end up in In? Did you drag it in there? Did you download  
it from your INBOX?, etc.

>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> Thanks, Andre
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