[chandler-users] [d/f] Assorted Usage Notes

Mimi Yin mimi at osafoundation.org
Mon Jun 25 20:18:13 PDT 2007


Send Update sounds reasonable.

Something to note: Update is only present for items that have been  
addressed. So in theory, you should get used to the idea that edits  
to shared data syncs automatically without having to click Update?

Andre, did you have that understanding before you noticed the Update  
button?

Mimi

On Jun 25, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Andre Mueninghoff wrote:

> Hi Jeffrey,
>
> As I begin to understand this better, I would suggest the label be  
> "Send
> Update". The potential advantages of this label are that the word  
> Update
> is preserved (I also connected the icon with the word Update), the  
> word
> Send implies (to me anyway) to Send to other people as compared to
> merely updating the local item or even updating the sharing server or
> something, and using the word Send leaves open the mode of transport,
> whether email, Jabber, or other magic.
>
> Thanks much, Andre
>
> Jeffrey Harris wrote:
>> Hi Andre,
>>
>> Thanks for the ongoing "outside the development bubble" feedback,  
>> Andre.
>>
>>> Is Update/Notify perhaps really intended for propagating changes to
>>> non-Chandler users? If so, maybe the label or tool-tip could
>>> clarify/amplify that intended purpose. If I'm missing the point, I
>>> apologize. Wanted to give you my candid impulse response without
>>> peeking first at the spec.
>>
>> Actually, I think Update is targeted equally at Chandler users.  For
>> instance, if I'm editing a get-together amongst an ad hoc group of
>> friends, the item may start as an outline without the formality of a
>> shared collection.
>>
>> I imagine in this case, I'd send out a tentative event to a few  
>> friends,
>> and they'd reply with counter-proposals and discussion (whether they
>> were Chandler users or not).  But as agreement was reached on  
>> details,
>> that could be reflected as an update to the original item, so the
>> outline could grow into a clear, centralized plan.  Does that use  
>> case
>> make sense?
>>
>> Regarding the fact that the Update/Notify button doesn't immediately
>> convey I'm-going-to-send-an-email (which is a good point), how  
>> about if
>> we changed the button's title to Update by Email?
>>
>> That suffers from the fact that it's kind of long for a toolbar item,
>> but it seems much clearer.  I guess the Send state could be called  
>> Send
>> by Email then, too.  I know we want to emphasize communication  
>> (could be
>> Jabber, say) instead of Email, but for Preview, we're just doing  
>> email.
>>
>> I must confess I'm enamored of the way the icon states for updates  
>> look
>> like U's which connect to Update in my mind.  That's not going to be
>> true in non-English languages so I probably shouldn't be attached,  
>> but
>> still, I prefer Update to Notify if we can use more text to  
>> clarify what
>> we mean.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Jeffrey
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