[chandler-users] 543 QA Session - notes from Esther

[Esther Sun]

Hi,

That's very helpful.  Being able to see what edits/adds Mitch (or  
others) have made to a calendar is something (now that I know exists)  
I will likely use quite a bit.

Thanks for explaining the thinking behind the DONE designation.  Now  
that I know why it's there, I'd probably use it.  It seems like it  
would be useful to have four triage statuses: Now/Soon/Later/Done -  
but you might need to come up with a new name.  Is triage (by  
definition) limited to three stages?

Esther


On 22Aug, 2007, at 14:44, Mimi Yin wrote:

> Hi Esther,
>
> At this point, I'm not surprised you're confused by the All  
> Application Area.
>
> I think if you're using Chandler exclusively as a Calendaring app,  
> the Triage Table will be most useful as a way to see:
>
> + What edits Mitch has made to his calendar: Edited items pop to  
> the top of the NOW section with a blue dot to denote that they're  
> Unread.
>
> + What new events Mitch has added to his calendar: New items pop to  
> the top of the NOW section with a blue dot to denote that they're  
> Unread.
>
> + Which events have conflicting edits on them (as in you and Mitch  
> edited the same event simultaneously). Items with conflicting edits  
> pop to the top of the NOW section with a blue dot and an error icon  
> to denote that they're Unread by you and have conflicts.
>
> As for the Triage Status, currently there isn't a way for people to  
> define their own triage status, although allowing users to do that  
> is definitely something we want to do.
>
> NOW/Today versus Soon/This Week is definitely a distinction other  
> people have mentioned before. So you're not alone!
>
> DONE is mostly useful for:
> + Keeping track of past events (probably wouldn't want to delete  
> events off the calendar when they pass in time)
> + Sharing. People who are sharing collections will want to know  
> which items have been dealt and are DONE.
>
> Hope that helps a little.
>
> Mimi
>
>
> On Aug 22, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Esther Sun wrote:
>
>> Hi Mimi,
>>
>> Hmmm... interesting point.  Until you mentioned it below, I had  
>> never even considered clicking on the All button in the upper left- 
>> hand corner of the application.  I just went and did this and the  
>> resulting view makes no sense to me at all.  I have no idea what  
>> to do with this.  :(
>>
>> I'm currently thinking of Chandler Desktop as mostly a calendar  
>> application, but would love to use it to manage contacts and email  
>> - when it's ready to be used as such.  I guess that the way I've  
>> always managed my to do lists has been using my email inbox or sub- 
>> folders.  While using a triage system is not a completely new or  
>> foreign concept to me, I don't think of my triage as "Now, Done  
>> and Later" - I guess my own system of triage is something more  
>> along the lines of "Now/Today, Soon/This Week, Later/Whenever" I  
>> don't have a "Done" category.  And within the Now/Today, I  
>> sometimes end up prioritizing 1,2,3,4,etc.  Maybe I don't think of  
>> triage-ing the same way as you?  Is there a way to customize the  
>> Triage status in Chandler?  Typically, in PIM-type applications  
>> such as MS Outlook, if I can't use a feature the way I want, I  
>> just skip it.  For example, I couldn't really figure out how to  
>> successfully use a Task List, so I use my email in-box and create  
>> subfolders to manage my To Do's instead.
>>
>> As for Philippe's question about how I got my events in - they  
>> were imported via an iCal .ics file first, and then entered  
>> manually as they got scheduled.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions or need any clarification.  :)
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Esther
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22Aug, 2007, at 13:18, Mimi Yin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Esther, do you ever look at the calendar from a Table View? As  
>>> in, do you ever click on the All button in the upper left-hand  
>>> corner of the Chandler Desktop application?
>>>
>>> I think the 37 pages of NOW are 37 pages of events that dropped  
>>> into NOW on their start date/times and then never got triaged to  
>>> DONE.
>>>
>>> This is possibly a result of using and thinking of Chandler  
>>> Desktop purely as a calendar application?
>>>
>>> Mimi
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:52 PM, Philippe Bossut wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Esther,
>>>>
>>>> Esther Sun wrote:
>>>>> 3.  To expand on a couple of Bobby's comments on my behalf, I  
>>>>> didn't realize that all events created were automatically given  
>>>>> a triage status, thus my 37 pages of "NOW" events.  I wonder if  
>>>>> it is an option to turn of triaging, or to have some way of  
>>>>> doing "smart" triaging - like select all events before a  
>>>>> certain date and marking them "DONE" or having the option of  
>>>>> assigning "NONE" as a triage selection.  Especially for FYI  
>>>>> events, they don't seem to need a triage state, since they are  
>>>>> merely FYI events.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting idea about the FYI items not having to be triaged.
>>>> On the triage status, we know we are missing a NEW status (this  
>>>> is mentioned in the Known Issues http://chandlerproject.org/ 
>>>> Projects/KnownIssues).
>>>> On the auto triage, if you imported a big ics file, events in  
>>>> the past should have been auto triaged to DONE. I'm wondering  
>>>> how you got all your events in though.
>>>
>>
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