[Chandler-dev] Design Review of New Subscribe/Share/Download experience

Travis Vachon travis at osafoundation.org
Tue May 6 16:02:16 PDT 2008


Hi Mimi

Yeah, definitely, depending on what you mean by next release cycle. If  
you mean 0.15, I don't think so, as I'd like to only push code and  
test fixes at this point. It most definitely makes sense to spend a  
day or two just reviewing and iterating on visual polish, probably  
over the phone with the help of a live testing server. Bug 11854 is  
probably a good place to coordinate all of that, and we may want to  
wait until the code deliverables for 1.0 are in before we start.

-Travis

On May 6, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Mimi Yin wrote:

> Hi Travis,
>
> Would it make sense to dedicate some part of this next release cycle  
> to overall visual polish? I think it's more efficient if you,  
> Jeffrey and I can iterate on polish rather than me trying to specify  
> everything ahead of time. I'm also happy to tweak the css myself  
> (assuming it's in a state where the likelihood of me messing up code  
> is low ;)
>
> I've updated the bug with a laundry list of visual polish issues to  
> consider:
> https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11854
>
> Mimi
>
> On May 6, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Travis Vachon wrote:
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>> Hi Mimi
>>
>> These all sound doable and desirable for 1.0, but not vital enough to
>> interrupt the test/release cycle for 0.15, so I'm going to add them  
>> to
>> bug 11854.
>>
>> Thanks again for the feedback.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On May 6, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Mimi Yin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Travis,
>>>
>>> I think we're really close with the sidebars. The dialogs looks
>>> great. Just a few final tweaks to the sidebar itself ;)
>>>
>>> For Logged-in View
>>> 1. I didn't notice yesterday, but the Collection Name has a 1 pixel
>>> border all around it which creates a weird optical illusion on the
>>> left side. Can we get rid of the top and left borders and just keep
>>> the 1 pixel bottom border?
>>> 2. The grey matte seems to be 1 pixel shy of filling out the sidebar
>>> on the right side.
>>> 3. Subscribe with... has a big margin above it. It should be 15
>>> pixels.
>>>
>>>
>>> For Ticket View
>>> 1. The Collection Name and Add to my account... should be left-
>>> aligned with the text/buttons below. It's a few pixels too far over
>>> to the left right now.
>>> 2. Add to my account... feels anemic below the new bigger Collection
>>> Name. Can we make it bold like the links in the upper right-hand?
>>> 3. Add to my account... floats a big between the Collection Name and
>>> the divider. Can we bring it closer to the collection name so
>>> they're more clearly grouped.
>>>
>>> 4. The divider is too close to Add to my account... There should be
>>> 5 pixel bottom margin?
>>> 5. The divider also feels anemic given the heft of the stuff on
>>> either side of it. Can we fatten it up to 3 pixels tall and make the
>>> same grey as the top border of the sidebar? #CCCCCC
>>> 6. Currently, the divider appears to be 1 pixel shy of the right
>>> border. It should go all the way across.
>>>
>>> 7. I think Subscribe with... is too close to the divider in the
>>> ticket view. It should be 15 pixels.
>>>
>>>
>>> For both Logged-in and Ticket Views
>>> 1. Can we bring the [Chandler Desktop] button about 4 pixels closer
>>> to the words Subscribe with...
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Mimi
>>>
>>> <cosmo_sidebar_logged_in.png>
>>> <cosmo_sidebar_ticket.png>
>>> <cosmo_sidebar_current.png>
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>> Mimi<div><br></div><div>These all sound doable and desirable for  
>> 1.0, =
>> but not vital enough to interrupt the test/release cycle for 0.15,  
>> so =
>> I'm going to add them to bug 11854.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks =
>> again for the =
>> feedback.</div><div><br></div><div>Travis</ 
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>> May 6, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Mimi Yin wrote:</html><br =
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>> "><div>Hi Travis,</div><div><br></div><div>I think we're really  
>> close =
>> with the sidebars. The dialogs looks great. Just a few final tweaks  
>> to =
>> the sidebar itself ;)</div><div><br></div><div><b>For Logged-in =
>> View</b></div><div><div>1. I didn't notice yesterday, but the  
>> Collection =
>> Name has a 1 pixel border all around it which creates a weird  
>> optical =
>> illusion on the left side. Can we get rid of the top and left  
>> borders =
>> and just keep the 1 pixel bottom border?</div><div>2. The grey  
>> matte =
>> seems to be 1 pixel shy of filling out the sidebar on the right =
>> side.</div></div><div>3.&nbsp;<b>S</b><b>ubscribe with...</ 
>> b>&nbsp;has a =
>> big margin above it. It should be 15 =
>> pixels.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>For Ticket =
>> View</b></div><div>1. The Collection Name and <b>Add to my  
>> account... =
>> </b>should be left-aligned with the text/buttons below. It's a few =
>> pixels too far over to the left right now.</div><div>2.&nbsp;<b>Add  
>> to =
>> my account...</b>&nbsp;feels anemic below the new bigger Collection =
>> Name. Can we make it bold like the links in the upper =
>> right-hand?</div><div>3.&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
>> style=3D"font-weight: bold; ">Add to my account...&nbsp;</ 
>> span>floats a =
>> big between the Collection Name and the divider. Can we bring it  
>> closer =
>> to the collection name so they're more clearly =
>> grouped.</div><div><br></div><div>4. The divider is too close =
>> to&nbsp;<b>Add to my account...&nbsp;</b>There should be 5 pixel  
>> bottom =
>> margin?</div><div>5. The divider also feels anemic given the heft  
>> of the =
>> stuff on either side of it. Can we fatten it up to 3 pixels tall  
>> and =
>> make the same grey as the top border of the =
>> sidebar?&nbsp;<b>#CCCCCC</b></div><div>6. Currently, the divider  
>> appears =
>> to be 1 pixel shy of the right border. It should go all the way =
>> across.</div><div><br></div><div>7. I think&nbsp;<b>Subscribe =
>> with...&nbsp;</b>is too close to the divider in the ticket view. It =
>> should be 15 pixels.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>For  
>> both =
>> Logged-in and Ticket Views</b></div><div>1. Can we bring =
>> the&nbsp;<b>[Chandler Desktop]</b>&nbsp;button about 4 pixels  
>> closer to =
>> the words&nbsp;<b>Subscribe =
>> with...</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Mimi</ 
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