[Chandler-dev] Loading developer tools on tinderboxes?

Bryan Stearns stearns at osafoundation.org
Mon Nov 20 09:39:07 PST 2006


I'm not sure that running with --wing on every build is a good idea 
(since any exception caught would hang that tbox (and turn the tree 
orange) until someone manually investigated), or that it would even 
accomplish what you want (since the tboxes don't catch exceptions the 
way developers do).

Instead, if the goal is to track down debuggable cases of an obscure 
failure, maybe it'd be better to go the other way, and install the tbox 
software on a developer's machine?

...Bryan

Dan Steinicke wrote:
> Here are two suggestions John made to me that I am now passing on the 
> full group.
>
> (1) Proposal to load dev tools on tinderboxes.  After some recent 
> issues with the tinderboxes it was proposed that we load the following 
> tools on all chandler tinderbox machines:
>   * install wing on all tinderboxes
>   * install Microsoft Visual studio on all windows tinderboxes
>   * install GDB on all non-windows tinderboxes
>
> (2) Proposal to run full build debug tests  in the debugger by passing 
> Chandler the --wing option on start up.  John predicts that this will 
> cause the tests to run slower by a factor of two or less.
>
> I like these proposals because I believe that they will aid us in 
> tracking down and fixing some hard to reproduce errors we have been 
> experiencing.  My main concern is the cost to do this, especially 
> purchasing MS visual studio.  I have a minor concern about how much 
> effort it will take to run the tests in the debugger in a continuous 
> tinderbox style but I believe it is worth giving it a shot and finding 
> out if this can be done with a modest amount of effort.
> I would value hearing others opinions on these ideas.
>
> Dan
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